Because they have to share a hotel room with the tw*t, and after many years of knowing him, they've learnt to just keep shut and save themselves the hassle.

Basically... it all boils down to it just being a bit stale. Eddie & Stevo have been doing the job what, at least 10 years?! Is it even closer to 20?! They, and their bosses, have just become OK with the fact that it's a bit sh[ii[/it these days. It just needs freshening up. The game has changed so much in 20 years, it's about time the Sky commentary team caught up.

Edit - Must be 20 years the more I think about it?! I keep thinking 2000 was "recent", when in reality that was a decade ago! It worries me that 1991 was 20 years ago. P.s As if it's MAY already?! WTF!?

Whilst that may well be true Stuart Barnes is still Stuart Barnes and I can't look at his fat little face without wanting to stick my arm through the screen and into his pudgy little smug face.

As you were.

The Barnes vs Stevo "debate" was atrocious. RL got owned. Primarily because Stevo can't hold an intelligent conversation without getting hotheaded.

Cant say I've ever been swayed when deciding on watching a sport or not by the commentary team, rugby league has been on sky now for 20 years, I'm not sure a change of commentary staff would change viewing figures either way.

Why, just because I call it as I see it?



Neither were forward passes as I interpret the laws. On both occasions the ball left Chase's hands level or backwards (not forwards), he remained ahead of the ball until Owen received the ball.

Just my opinion you understand.

But you couldn't be further from missinterpreting tvoc. The rules are clear if it leaves his hands forward then it's forward. On Friday that was the case with the second.

Just to put in perspective. I was away for a football tournament with my son this weekend, bit watched the game on the big screen. Watching it with my very biased cas supporting mate who's son was also playing footy. I took a lot of stick over that first dissallowed about the ref been in leeds pocket.

After that dissalowed i was speaking with our equally biased cas mate on the phone who was at the ground. He was still on when the second one was on,and he immediately said forward saying he was directly in line. I then put him on to our mate with me who was chomping away moaning and having watched a couple of replays he agreed it was forward. Still wouldn't stop moaning about the first though.

What was ypur opinion on Saints disallowed try? I though that was far more debatable than the Cas second one.

Wouldn't worry too much chaps, the RFL will move onto the next contentious area fad they have to have every season.

Re-read what I said in the post you're replying to.

I don't dispute that '=#FF0000if' it left his hands going forwards it would be a forward pass, I dispute your opinion that that is what happened.



No perspective is neccessary. They're opinions just the same as mine. Club affiliation doesn't (or shouldn't come into it) and if it did would I be claiming the tries should have stood?



I really don't recall the incident. I've scrubbed the game from Sky+ so I'll have to see if the disallowed score was featured on 'All The Tries' and get back to you.

Is anyone else watching tonight getting bored with the "Saints Injury Crisis" coming from Eddie all game. Not one super league club is without injuries at the moment.

We didn't get as many mentions when we were short on numbers last year.

No I now find turning the sound off sometimes improves the watching experience.

you're not wrong there fella,Eddie was a total bore yet again tonight

Don't forget this is Saints we're talking about.

Actually, that isn't true. You got plenty of mentions. Tons of them. And we all got bored of it last season. So this is payback time.

I think eddie and stevo should be hired out to the UN. Because they have a unifying effect in that everyone forgets there own differences and just hates them!!!

At what minute in today's game did they stop claiming that 'if any team can come back from this, it's St Helens!'?

10 mins after the sts coach left the ground?

They should be sent out to pasture!

In most professional walks of life people don't continue to do the same job at the same level for 20 or more years.
But on TV commentators seem to go on forever or until they commit a major gaffe.
I don't think Barry Mac is the answer he talks too much over the action getting across his last point & he tries too hard to come up with the comic quip.
O'Connor is worse.
I like Carney & John Wells, whether they can work with a professional commentator remains to be seen.
I think there should always be the balance of one ex-player to a tv journalist supplemented by one or two "colour" commentators.

I think they finally admitted defeat in about the 76th minute. That was beyond even the "Mighty S".

We did a Grand Final in the second half and capitulated. It was never on. We didn't have the mental reserves to do another Cas/Hull/Wigan/you name it comeback! But we have done some rather good comebacks this season. Too many of them for my nerves.

I don't have Sky Sports these days so rarely get to listen to them, but which player have they decided to get excited over this year and push toward the Man Of Steel?

I bet it's Briers.

True, but it's got to be Roby.

I think the point is that Eddie's 'never write off the Saints' line is getting a bit tired. It's hardly exclusive to Saints. We've probably produced plenty more comebacks over the last few years.

Oh, that's just because under Ian Millward we made an art of it. We had to. Our defence was e back then. With making so many comebacks this season, I think it's reminded him of the old days. However, he's not yet clicked on that we're not that team anymore!