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| Quote ="tvoc"Certainly not in 2009 but I wouldn't have been surprised if Diskin had or still does find a way out of the club before his current deal ends in 2010.'"
You raise an interesting point in that Diskin is OoC at the end of 2010, could you tell us when the other first team squad members are OoC, and also what their current age is?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Certainly not in 2009 but I wouldn't have been surprised if Diskin had or still does find a way out of the club before his current deal ends in 2010.'"
Justin Morgan was creaming himself over Disko on Friday nights Five Live Sports commentary at the game - does he know something we don;t about where Disko maybe next year
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"You raise an interesting point in that Diskin is OoC at the end of 2010, could you tell us when the other first team squad members are OoC, and also what their current age is?
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[url=http://viewtopic.php?t=391364&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0This was the position earlier in the season[/url
Donald, Senior and Ablett have extended by a year since then Leuluai and Kirke by two IIRC.
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| Is Ratu OOC at the end of this season?
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"Is Ratu OOC at the end of this season?'"
No idea, sorry.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"Is Ratu OOC at the end of this season?'"
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'd hold on to that thought until Leeds have the full diagnosis. Ligament damage can be worse than a break and lead to longer lay offs.'"
Indeed. I broke my ankle and ruptured 3 ligaments in March. The fracture healed nicely with a month in plaster, the ligaments are still limiting my running now. Even with the news that he has a fracture, the big hope is that there are no serious underlying ligament problems. Good luck to him with the rehab.
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| Even as a Wigan fan you have to marvel at Buderus ability. He was excellent in all aspects of the game on Friday. I think Diskin has suffered but that is not Buderus fault.
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| Quote ="The Wigan Observer"Even as a Wigan fan you have to marvel at Buderus ability. He was excellent in all aspects of the game on Friday. I think Diskin has suffered but that is not Buderus fault.'"
This few weeks is Disko's time to show Leeds how good he is
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| Quote ="Sallystar"This few weeks is Disko's time to show Leeds how good he is'" has he not done that since 2001?
FWIW, clearly Buderus is a better player and clearly we'll feel his loss but Diskin will show better form for starting and playing longer periods.
We've shown we can win titles with Diskin at 9 (three of them). I see no reason why Diskin being first choice hooker (again) should alter that.
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| Quote ="tvoc"[url=http://viewtopic.php?t=391364&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0This was the position earlier in the season[/url
Donald, Senior and Ablett have extended by a year since then Leuluai and Kirke by two IIRC.'"
So Worrall and Gibson are going to be moving on then. Given the strategy over Watkins, and more recently Ratu, I wonder if we will be picking up another Centre or simply going with Coady once he is "ready".
We definitely look a prop light next year, can you imagine how weak our front row would be if Peacock got a long term injury...
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"We definitely look a prop light next year, can you imagine how weak our front row would be if Peacock got a long term injury...
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It would be just as weak as any other team who lost their best prop
Saints - Graham
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| I think the key for Leeds is that both Burrows and McGuire need to take the line on far more. Both are incredibly dangerous when they do so and if they do not at least try, opposing teams just drift sideways to cover latetral plays. Leeds are guilty of playing in front of the defensive line far too much.
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| as Soon as DB is 80% fit get him back in!
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| Quote ="Tony Ferrino"as Soon as DB is 80% fit get him back in!'"
Yeah great idea TOOL...
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| Quote ="The Wigan Observer"I think the key for Leeds is that both Burrows and McGuire need to take the line on far more. Both are incredibly dangerous when they do so and if they do not at least try, opposing teams just drift sideways to cover latetral plays. Leeds are guilty of playing in front of the defensive line far too much.'"
That is at least partly true. McGuire can be guilty of getting a bit too lateral sometimes. primarily I think he does it in search of a gap, which he can be through in a heartbeat when he's on form, but if the gap doesn't materialise he sometimes looks short of a Plan B.
That is being hyper-critical, of course, but even players as good as him have things to improve.
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| Quote ="The Wigan Observer"I think the key for Leeds is that both Burrows and McGuire need to take the line on far more. Both are incredibly dangerous when they do so and if they do not at least try, opposing teams just drift sideways to cover latetral plays. Leeds are guilty of playing in front of the defensive line far too much.'" If they have no runners though it would be suicide.
Watch Burrow. Many times he received the ball and not a Leeds player within 20 yards looks keen to take the ball so he takes on the line himself out of lack of options rather than anything else.
If Burrow and McGuire were running directly with options galore then they would be very difficult to stop.
That's another issue with the coaching though...........
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| Quote ="Tony Ferrino"as Soon as DB is 80% fit get him back in!'"
Most ridiculous suggestion of the season
G1 is bang on regarding diskin, he'll do a fine job in the run in, just like the last 5 years
who knows, he may add another Harry Sunderland trophy ....
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| Not doubting Diskins ability but an 80% fit DB is better than a 100% Disco
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| Not only will the guy be missed on the field but off it too!
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| Quote ="G1"If they have no runners though it would be suicide.
Watch Burrow. Many times he received the ball and not a Leeds player within 20 yards looks keen to take the ball so he takes on the line himself out of lack of options rather than anything else.
If Burrow and McGuire were running directly with options galore then they would be very difficult to stop.
That's another issue with the coaching though...........'"
It's also partly a criticism of their organisation skills. They should know what they're going to do when the receive the ball and this should have been communicated to the runners.
Sinfield is much better at this but then he is probably not as good at breaking the line himself.
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| Quote ="Tony Ferrino"Not doubting Diskins ability but an 80% fit DB is better than a 100% Disco'"
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| Quote ="Tony Ferrino"Not doubting Diskins ability but an 80% fit DB is better than a 100% Disco'"
For about 5 minutes.
Then you're left with a 0% fit Danny Buderus.
If he's fully fit before the play offs great. If he's partially fit its not worth the risk - remember the selection of Keith Senior in the CC Final in 2005.
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| Quote ="G1"If they have no runners though it would be suicide.
Watch Burrow. Many times he received the ball and not a Leeds player within 20 yards looks keen to take the ball so he takes on the line himself out of lack of options rather than anything else.
If Burrow and McGuire were running directly with options galore then they would be very difficult to stop.
That's another issue with the coaching though...........'"
The problem is under Smith Burrow and McGuire were the runners it is no surprise now we don't have any runners as they are now the providers.
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"The problem is under Smith Burrow and McGuire were the runners it is no surprise now we don't have any runners as they are now the providers.'"
You have to let this obsession go ... its just not healthy.
Smith hasn't been coach since October 2007 ... nearly 2 years now ... nothing is actually his fault anymore ... the "new" guy has had plenty of time to change anything and everything he wanted.
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