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| Quote ="G1"Well if he doesn't take the ball in who will? Kylie? Another monumental effort from him again. Although I would say, he did put in a few crunchers.'" He does every game but I agree with you he does need to take the ball up more.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"I know Peacock wants to be (and is used as the main forward) but that is surely too many drives'" indeed, 1 drive every 5.7 minutes
his tackle count is more of a worry, that's a lot greater then his colleagues
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| Week in week out JP is head and shoulders above his fellow forwards – my concern is who will pick up his mantle should he get injured?
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| It's almost got to the stage where it would have been for the best for JP to get banned to give himself a weekend off. The work he gets through is insane and you have to worry about him wearing himself out during the season, given he's not getting any younger.
The thing is, the other forwards are not bad players. During their time at Leeds, they have all had runs of games (some longer than others) where they have been excellent. The problem is, they don't need to be consistent, because they know JP is always there to take up the slack. The problem at the moment seems to be that he's trying to take up the slack for most of the pack. As I say, there are enough good forwards at the club to turn this around, but with Kirke now out, I do worry about JP's workload.
The penalty count stands out again. We give away so much territory through daft penalties. Come the end of the season, if this carries on, you've got to expect the players to suffer from the mental and physical fatigue that comes with doing so much defence in your own 20. Very worrying and it happends week in week out.
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| as i have said from the start,we are two players light in the forwards. the guys are having to play more games and do more time. i can see them being shattered come september time.
with kirkes injury we are now desperate for a new face or two to come in.
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| I wonder how many of Kylie's tackles were where he was third or fourth man in, only getting involved when the tackle was all bar complete?
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Week in week out JP is head and shoulders above his fellow forwards – my concern is who will pick up his mantle should he get injured?'"
Well we will find out this week. IMO we will struggle, especially if we are not given many penalties, because I cant see where the yards will be made.
Diskins tackling is abysmal, and he simply should be dropped with a stat like that. Not to mention that a dummy half when running with the ball should be making a fair few metres, his 3.4 metres per carry is wasteful.
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| Haven't seen the game at all, but what did surprise me was that Diskin and Buderus combined carry total was only 9.
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| Quote ="finglas"Haven't seen the game at all, but what did surprise me was that Diskin and Buderus combined carry total was only 9.'"
Thats not bad to be honest.
9 dummy half runs in the game. I dont know what the average is, but presume it wont be much different.
They should be passing it on, rather than carrying. But when they make a run from dummy half it should be making yardage. Buderus metres per carry looks acceptable there, Diskins is pish poor.
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| Quote ="DISA"Thats not bad to be honest.
9 dummy half runs in the game. I dont know what the average is, but presume it wont be much different.
They should be passing it on, rather than carrying. But when they make a run from dummy half it should be making yardage. Buderus metres per carry looks acceptable there, Diskins is pish poor.'" Given two props and a centre on the bench, along with the early loss of Kirke, I would expect that their game time would have been approaching 100 minutes between them and that they would have helped with the carries when not at dummyhalf.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"as i have said from the start,we are two players light in the forwards. the guys are having to play more games and do more time. i can see them being shattered come september time.
with kirkes injury we are now desperate for a new face or two to come in.'" Shattered? Shattered?
Who, other than Peacock, has picked up any slack from the missing forwards?
Kylie and Kirkes 6 drives a game will leave them breathless come the Playoffs, oh yes.
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| Quote ="finglas"Haven't seen the game at all, but what did surprise me was that Diskin and Buderus combined carry total was only 9.'"
Leeds ran the ball from dummy half on 26 occasions in the game.
5 - Diskin, Webb
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2 - Ablett, Gibson, Hall, Smith
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Les Catalans ran the ball from dummy half 21 times by comparison.
Quote ="DISA"9 dummy half runs in the game. I dont know what the average is, but presume it wont be much different.'"
Leeds average in the SL Regular Rds (OPTA) is 34 this season. The highest was 50 away at Bradford while the lowest was 21 the week before at home to Les Catalans.
Buderus averages 6, Diskin averages 9 per game.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Leeds average in the SL Regular Rds (OPTA) is 34 this season. The highest was 50 away at Bradford while the lowest was 21 the week before at home to Les Catalans.
Buderus averages 6, Diskin averages 9 per game.'"
Sorry, I misworded my post, I was actually talking about dummy half runs from the Hooker.
Although that said it appears what Finglas said was right, that it was low.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"as i have said from the start,we are two players light in the forwards. the guys are having to play more games and do more time. i can see them being shattered come september time.
with kirkes injury we are now desperate for a new face or two to come in.'" Well it won't be Lynch he's just signed a new 3 year deal for the Bulls.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Well it won't be Lynch he's just signed a new 3 year deal for the Bulls.'"
When was that? Not that I doubt it. But I was speaking with him on Saturday, and he said he had agreed no deal with anyone at that stage, and offers from both Bradford and Cas on the table.
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| Quote ="DISA"When was that? Not that I doubt it. But I was speaking with him on Saturday, and he had agreed no deal with anyone at that stage, and offers from both Bradford and Cas on the table.'" BBC website.
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Quote ="DISA"When was that? Not that I doubt it. But I was speaking with him on Saturday, and he said he had agreed no deal with anyone at that stage, and offers from both Bradford and Cas on the table.'"
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| Quote ="rhinoms"news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/bradford/8094566.stm'"
Shame that one. Although when I spoke with him on Saturday he said he had never had even an enquiry from us.
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| Quote ="DISA"Shame that one. Although when I spoke with him on Saturday he said he had never had even an enquiry from us.'"
Good, as any such official approach would have been illegal anyway.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Good, as any such official approach would have been illegal anyway.'"
Only if it had been direct to the player IIRC - if Leeds had made contact with, for example, his agent/representative that wouldn't have been.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Only if it had been direct to the player IIRC - if Leeds had made contact with, for example, his agent/representative that wouldn't have been.'"
While the player is still under contract to his present club? What wonderful rule makers we have down at Red Hall.
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| Quote ="tvoc"While the player is still under contract to his present club? What wonderful rule makers we have down at Red Hall.'"
The alternative of course tvoc is that you believe Jamie Peacock was contacted by Leeds and agreed a contract within hours of the anti-tamper deadline passing.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"The alternative of course tvoc is that you believe Jamie Peacock was contacted by Leeds and agreed a contract within hours of the anti-tamper deadline passing.
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And why not, Gary Hetherington is a fast worker when he puts his mind to it.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"The alternative of course tvoc is that you believe Jamie Peacock was contacted by Leeds and agreed a contract within hours of the anti-tamper deadline passing.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Jamies an impulsive kind of guy.'"
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