I’ve watched highlights since then too you muppet

or it could be someone else's attitude being wrong

That someone being?

he was only talking about one player

That someone being?

I think we are all aware of the weaknesses on the field , but our coaching team really need to think very carefully about our tactics - they are currently way off the pace - eg,
1. why are we dying with the ball on the last tackle - where`s our grubber kick ( watch Saints on Friday night )
2. who in their right mind puts a young hooker at centre , when you have back rower onthe field who has played there before
3. you don`t play a young prop when he is not fit - he was playing on one leg
4. playing against a strong wind , so first kick is up in the air - 40 metres forward , 30 back- it is brainless
5. our half time team talk should be tactical and motivational - ours put the team to sleep for 20 minutes.
- what are Agar and Long all week ?????

We seem coached to the nth degree to build pressure, build pressure, build pressure. The plan seems to stop short of actually putting points on the board. Until that changes we get beat convincingly by the good sides, win or lose narrowly against the mediocre ones, and occasionally shine against the least capable.

With respect i think this squad is better than that. I still aee us challenging for a top 4 spot

A few bodies back and we are better than most i feel.

Ever the optimist. I would agree that our first choice 17 can match it with anyone. All depends how we go on injury and suspension front. I think the quality drop off is less in Wigan, Saints, Wire, Catalans……

Saints are miles ahead of everyone Shabs. Their line speed and defence means they rarely concede 10 points, i know their was plenty on here who thought we could go toe to toe at with them at the start of the year. I never once thought that.

We can challenge for top 4 tho, like you say injuries and suspensions are key and so far they arent looking good.

Totally agree.
It's shaping up to be a decent battle for second.
Saints are in a league of their own.
We look like we'll struggle in the battle for second, but get some bodies back and avoid suspensions and we could be in the mix.
Hang on......sound familiar........

It’s like a rinse and repeat of last season

I think we can read too much into the opening 2 games, it’s a long season and lots can happen, Saints could get a ton of injuries, they might walk the league again, we could get bodies back and go on a big winning run, and all other clubs will have dips and runs in form.

Nothing is won in round 2 or 3.

We do seem to be having no luck with injuries again, but we will get them back, at least we’ve got our first choice halfbacks available this year

Agree, they are currently. Give them the injury issues is and Wigan have had over last few years and they’d struggle too. Wire are the most disappointing as they’ve had pretty healthy squads and been miles off. Let’s get the win v Cats and kick start the season. I’m even planning on watching this one…!

So here’s a genuine question. Can anyone tell me when we were last able to field a fully fit squad-even leaving Walker out of the equation-I’m guessing it’s at least 3 seasons ago?

Excellent question, that’s the point I made in an earlier posting. Also let’s not forget the amount of times we have had to play people out of position.
Briscoe for example, a bog standard winger playing in the centre spot.

So far

Well we’ve already not had the pairing for a game we’d probably have won with them both…

The pre season friendly v Hull I reckon…we named 1-17 in the squad announced, although Prior ended up not playing but before that I don’t recall the last time we were able to name 1-17 in a squad?

In which case every single play the ball is a knock on. Powell got it wrong as he was responding to the VR saying it wasn't a knock on because Bibby kicked it. However it actually wasn't a knock on as it went backwards. It can't be a knock on from that point by it coming off the foot (or knee or shin or anywhere else below the waist for that matter).

The ref and VR also thought he kicked it. They were wrong on both counts.

We’ve moved on Phuzzy lad. Game’s gone. We’re Moaning about other stuff now.

I know the wheels turn more slowly in Wigan but have you dropped T’internet hub in a pie?

Yet here you are on the same thread. Define "moved on" again for me...

Well you haven't, his reply was 9 days ago...

You won easily Phuzzy, I’m trying to move on.

Make sure you’ve sucked all the gravy outta t’hub.