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| Quote ="Omar Little"What other reason can he have to twist the leg like that. As said above, if he wants to slow the PTB he can just cling on.
Ablett certainly reacted like he thought it was deliberate from his front row view'"
He was trying to slow him down, it a split second you don't have time to think, he made the wrong decision, but I don't believe for one second that Sneyd has deliberately tried to injury McGuire.
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| possibly not but he was reckless. why roll him? he should cop a long ban
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| Quote ="Dave K."He was trying to slow him down, it a split second you don't have time to think, he made the wrong decision, but I don't believe for one second that Sneyd has deliberately tried to injury McGuire.'"
Sneyd must be a bit dim if he thought his actions would not result in pain and possible injury.
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| No doubt "he was only trying to slow down the PTB" will be offered as mitigation. The criteria though is whether he does something that involves a significant risk of injury, and you would have to be some sort of idiot to think that didn't involve a very significant risk of injury to McGuire.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"keinhorst I believe'"
I cant argue with that. showed really good hands and speed of thought for the tries, and put in some really good defence.
I thought Ward had a great game again today, and both Sinny and McGuire were very good
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| Quote ="Neruda"I cant argue with that. showed really good hands and speed of thought for the tries, and put in some really good defence.
I thought Ward had a great game again today, and both Sinny and McGuire were very good'"
Hardaker and Ablett were in my list too.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder" gone into a crocodile-style death roll instead. '"
Overdramatising much?
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| Just as bad as the heel hook by the guy in Championship One for me, should have been a straight red and should cop the same 12+ game suspension.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Just as bad as the heel hook by the guy in Championship One for me, should have been a straight red and should cop the same 12+ game suspension.'"
I haven't seen the championship one incident, do you have a link to the video.
Chase got 8 matches for a much worst tackle and had much more previous than Sneyd.
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Quote ="Dave K."I haven't seen the championship one incident, do you have a link to the video.
Chase got 8 matches for a much worst tackle and had much more previous than Sneyd.'"
https://vimeo.com/130765059 (start around 15 seconds, it's that tackle)
That heel hook is a lot more pre-determined than what Sneyd did but they're both awful and deserve the same grade due to the nature.
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Chase got 8 matches for a much worst tackle and had much more previous than Sneyd.'"
https://vimeo.com/130765059 (start around 15 seconds, it's that tackle)
That heel hook is a lot more pre-determined than what Sneyd did but they're both awful and deserve the same grade due to the nature.
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| Keinhorst MoM for me and like has been said Walters was very poor. Zak,Hall, Watkins and McGuire played very well so did Ward once again.
Did the ref get a kick out of Ward taking his kit off so many times during that game?
I too do not think Sneyd tried to injure McGuire. Clumsy yes, trying to turn him over yes. But no player with the exception of maybe Chase and Hock would go out to ruin a fellow players season.
Unfortunately it looks like we will have Burrow back to partner Sinfield for a few weeks with possibly Lilley or Robbie Ward on the bench. I do hope Handley can grab a try or two this week as his confidence looks shot.
I was also impressed with Watts for Hull, niggly, aggressive with a good leg drive and good hands.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"https://vimeo.com/130765059 (start around 15 seconds, it's that tackle)
That heel hook is a lot more pre-determined than what Sneyd did but they're both awful and deserve the same grade due to the nature.'"
That is pretty nasty, did I imagine it or can you hear it crack when he breaks the leg?
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| Quote ="TOMCAT"That is pretty nasty, did I imagine it or can you hear it crack when he breaks the leg?'"
It is and much worst than Sneyds and totally different, time to think and more men in the tackle.
I can't believe Gronk is trying to compare it.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"https://vimeo.com/130765059 (start around 15 seconds, it's that tackle)
That heel hook is a lot more pre-determined than what Sneyd did but they're both awful and deserve the same grade due to the nature.'"
Jeeze that is horrific! Much worse than sneyd but both have no place in the game so deserve long long bans
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| Quote ="Omar Little"Jeeze that is horrific! Much worse than sneyd but both have no place in the game so deserve long long bans'"
Not disagreeing it's much worse (just because of how pre-determined that one clearly is) but they're both attacks on the oppositions ankle (Sneyd even has 2 goes ) that have caused injuries.
That one is the most obvious grade F you'll ever see, there can be a case made for Sneyd to receive the same charge to set an example and wipe out a scummy act.
A more realistic number though would probably be 4-8 for the recklessness because they'll be hard press to prove intent, unless they argue the 2nd attempt is proof of intent.
Hicks should have sent him off though.
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| Quote ="Chapylad"Unfortunately it looks like we will have Burrow back to partner Sinfield for a few weeks with possibly Lilley or Robbie Ward on the bench.'"
Yeah looks like it'll have to be Burrow for Friday at least. Sutcliffe is very doubtful for that one but at the same time it doesn't sound like he'll be out for long.
Will be interesting to see if he opts for Lilley or Robbie Ward to then take the HB/hooker spot on the bench or goes with four forwards (if we have enough fit). With McDermott liking to give his starting forwards big minutes I can't see the point of four forwards on the bench and also Lilley/R.Ward gives us a balance if we lose Aiton/Sinfield/Burrow to injury throughout the game.
Personally would go for R.Ward.
As it stands for Friday with the rumoured absentees.
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The last two bench spots if fit would go to Delaney and Cuthbertson (he sounds surprisingly confident he'll be fine for Friday on his Twitter but it must be majorly doubtful unless the calf isn't actually torn).
If not then it's between Yates, Mulhern and Walters to make up the bench.
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| Should be minimum 10 matches for Sneyd. That has no place in the game. Deliberate attempt to injure the player. There is no other reason for attempting that action.
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| Quote ="Dave K."It is and much worst than Sneyds and totally different, time to think and more men in the tackle.
I can't believe Gronk is trying to compare it.'"
And I can't believe it's only the Hull fans trying to defend Sneyd's actions. Scrub that, actually I can
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"
Personally would go for R.Ward.
As it stands for Friday with the rumoured absentees.
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The last two bench spots if fit would go to Delaney and Cuthbertson (he sounds surprisingly confident he'll be fine for Friday on his Twitter but it must be majorly doubtful unless the calf isn't actually torn).
If not then it's between Yates, Mulhern and Walters to make up the bench.'"
Yes pretty much what I would go with adding Delaney and for me Mulhern to the bench.
But I guess Yates will get the nod over Mulhern.
TBH the squad is that small we do not have many options left.
Unfortunately Walters has not taken his chance.
We will miss McGuire's cut out passing to Hall for sure. Is it confirmed the ankle is broken?
I would be delighted to see Cuthbertson play Friday but it did not look too good from where I was standing.
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| Quote ="roversmad"And I can't believe it's only the Hull fans trying to defend Sneyd's actions. Scrub that, actually I can'"
They are a lot of fans from other clubs including some Leeds fans (some on here) defending him (well saying it wasn't deliberate, which is what most hull fans are saying), but you keep lying.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Yes pretty much what I would go with adding Delaney and for me Mulhern to the bench.
But I guess Yates will get the nod over Mulhern.
TBH the squad is that small we do not have many options left.
Unfortunately Walters has not taken his chance.
We will miss McGuire's cut out passing to Hall for sure. Is it confirmed the ankle is broken?
I would be delighted to see Cuthbertson play Friday but it did not look too good from where I was standing.'"
Yeah I can't see him being ok for Friday, probably just rugby player stubbornness that he thinks he can play.
Nothing confirmed about McGuire yet but he did leave the ground on crutches and wearing a protective boot so hopefully it's not as bad as we fear but Friday must be a certain no-no for him.
Agree about Walters. I was one of those looking forward to seeing him get some games this year but he's disappointed and now Keinhorst has stepped in ahead of him, he's lucky Minchella was loaned out as well.
I would like to see Mulhern. Maybe he might get in ahead of Yates. He did for a couple of games but Yates got back in when Mulhern injured himself at Hunslet. He's back playing for them now so could get ahead of Yates possibly.
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| Quote ="Dave K."They are a lot of fans from other clubs including some Leeds fans (some on here) defending him (well saying it wasn't deliberate, which is what most hull fans are saying), but you keep lying.'"
daft t, if it was Maguire on Sneyd you'd be trying to reinstate hanging.
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| Quote ="roversmad"icon_smile.gif daft t, if it was Maguire on Sneyd you'd be trying to reinstate hanging.'"
You don't know me, so don't presume you know me or my thoughts, by the RFL guild lines it can only be upto a grade D, which is 3-5 matches which I think is fair and if he gets that so be it, I'd think the same if it was the other way around.
You sound like a school kid with your name calling, bit pathetic really, but that's you all over.
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| Quote ="Dave K."You don't know me, so don't presume you know me or my thoughts, by the RFL guild lines it can only be upto a grade D, which is 3-5 matches which I think is fair and if he gets that so be it, I'd think the same if it was the other way around.
You sound like a school kid with your name calling, bit pathetic really, but that's you all over.'"
Wind yer neck in, soft lad.
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