We didn't give them any choice to be honest mate we were ruthless and left them in tatters.

I disagree.

Yes they were ripped to pieces, but they did have a choice.

They chose to give up.

There is always a choice.

At much lower levels i have experienced many ruthless beatings, but you get up and carry on.

So if I could do that, like many others do, i would expect more from a group of professionals in their GF.

I would expect whino ts to pick low intensity walk in the parks like cas at home as obvious choices.

For attacking rugby it was probably was.

But for characterstics that win titles i felt we really showed what we were about earlier in the season.

Games like cas away, typically a bogey ground for us, when we weren't on our best form, showed real grit to grind out the result.

Hudds away as well, if you want an attacking performance. We had lost a few on the bounce going into this, hudds were 3rd....best defence, and we took them apart. It wasn't easy either, watch that first half again.

Oh, and inb4 ''you need to score points to win the grand final, guffaw''

We havent hit our straps yet and why would we you win the title in October not any earlier. Over the season we have shown character and determination and now we are starting to become ruthless. I havent been happy with all the performances but if you can win whilst playing badly then you can't complain. I am proud of the way our players have handled this season and I expect them to make it a hatrick of titles come October.

The last complete performance I can remember was Old Trafford last year and thats what I expect again this year coz thats when it matters.

I really am shocked about the idiots choosing a really poor walk over v Cas as Leeds best performance!!





Truly shows the calibre of posters on this site.

Anyway, best performance has to be the defeat at Saint Helens early doors, mainly due to the fact that Saints had to play at a fired up 100% to beat a Leeds team playing at 80% and Leeds really battered Saints that night and hurt them physically.

I think this really set the season up for Leeds knowing damn well that Saints playing at 100% would be nowhere near Leeds playing at their maximum intensity, that game was the pivotal game of the season for me.

You expect us to drop loads of ball again? That was hardly a complete performance.

I agree. We generally do look better without Buderus.

A Leeds team playing at 80% were a Leeds team at their best?

Which is why I said 80%. Buderus adds the 20% Leeds suffer when "lump o lard" plays the 80 mins.

I'm not writting it out again!!

For someone who is so clever and good looking, I am rather shocked that you cannot spell 'writing.'

Stop it Tiger, I do my best!!

Sometimes though, your best is just not good enough.

Having spoken to people at the club they were always scaling back during the season.

The majority of the squad came back from the world cup physically and mentally shattered.

There was little or no pre-season before the players had to attempt to peak for a WCC and, shortly thereafter an earl;y cup tie against Saints.

The training and game plan have been deliberately scaled down all season long.

If you listened to Mclennan's post match interviews after the cas game he said they had targeted that game, after the break, for quite some time as the point to scale up the training, scale up the preparation and scale up the performance.

If you watched us in the game we played a very different brand of rugby to that we have played all year. It was very good.

So, with that in mind it is not an unreasonable proposition to state that the Case game was our best performance because it was pivotal and they had geared up for it. Not only that but they executed the game plan to perfection.

I don't give a about the opposition and their lack of intensity. I was more concerned with how we looked in the run in to the playoffs and our performance and discipline were spot on.

So, my enlightened friend, that is why I consider it our best performance of the year. Now, am I a fekkwitt or can you offer me a more reasoned and justified rebuttal?

Can you tell me how many knock-ons there were please because I can't remember that many, oh and by the way it was very wet that night which inevitably leads to dropped ball. As for executing a perfect game plan and beating the in-form side in the Grand Final I think I would call that a complete performance.

How has it got to the stage where leeds fans have become so negative? especially as we are back to back champions, At least in the old days "whinos" had an excuse to be negative now you have none.

The short pre-season and slow build up was made public very early by the coach and he specifically highlighted the differences in performnce due to this but alas it was ignored or not accepted by many!!
I will say though i hope our new found discipline continues because earlier in the season it's been very poor.

What was the difference between playing poorly in a World Cup and playing poorly in a Tri-Nations series?

Eh??
The pre-season at leeds was deliberately scaled down due to the world cup what's that got to do with how england/great britain played in a tri-nations or world cup???????

I'd guess the numbers of Leeds players involved and the length of time the tournament ran over?

did not read lol

After your line about whinos finding something to moan about, i knew throwing that little t line in would draw you off your horse for a long winded diatribe.

Good job dave man.

Because you're not too bright son.

Eh? I posted on a thread I am interested in. I posted a thought out and articulate opinion. WTF are you on about? Do you understand how message boards work? If you want to discuss the issue at hand that is fine but do not try to play me you insignificant stain on Richie Ramrods' underpants because you're as out of your depth as a Morecambe cockle picker.

Or did you just get embarrassed because you weren't bright enough to articulate a rebuttal so you thought you'd post that you were trolling?

Brilliant!

You missed the most obvious difference to McClennan's Leeds, the absence of a Tri Nations tournament to conclude the 2007 season.

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