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| Quote ="burleywhite"Must admit i thought the best bit of yesterdays phone -in was when he was giving his opinion of warrington.and stated that if its Briers,Gleeson or John clarke creating problems in the dressing rooms then they have to go as Player power cannot be tolerated at any club!!!FFS!!!!
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| Quote ="G1"...........Whereas Schofield is................................'"
An unemployed bricky
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| Quote ="burleywhite"Must admit i thought the best bit of yesterdays phone -in was when he was giving his opinion of warrington.and stated that if its Briers,Gleeson or John clarke creating problems in the dressing rooms then they have to go as Player power cannot be tolerated at any club!!!FFS!!!!
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What are you trying to insinuate?.......surely not that Garry was responsible for creating problems in the dressing room ?
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"An unemployed bricky'"
Might be wrong but wasn't he a bricky's labourer rather than an actual bricky?
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| Quote ="Dirty Pretty Thing"Might be wrong but wasn't he a bricky's labourer rather than an actual bricky?'"
Garry was definately a bricky and not a bricky's labourer
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"Garry was definately a bricky and not a bricky's labourer'"
Spot on mate my old man worked on a few of the same sites as him when he was at jack lunn's.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Is that when Alf replied 'No Garry, you're just No.2 round here.''"
And Schoey then deliberately threw a game at Odsal. Wire supporters you thought Briers was the original dummy-spitter....as Raymondo Frog would say, "but no!"
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| Quote ="roo"Slight chang of topic, But Bobby Goulding on Boots N all was chirping on about an ex great-britain Captain being brougth in to help him manage the French national side. I assumed it would be Sculthorpe, But did Shoey ever Captain GB?'"
He also mentioned that said captain had won lots of medals during his career.............
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"He also mentioned that said captain had won lots of medals during his career.............'"
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| Do runners-up medals count?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Do runners-up medals count?'"
Only when you sell them on e-bay
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| Lay off GS he like everybody else has a right to a view. His comments on Gallager are interesting, he was paid a lot of money and did not do a lot for us. I was at the game when he got speared but from what i can remember it was near the end of the season. Their may been a lot worse big money signings such as Lee Crocks. But people must remember GS was one of greatest every player and he should be respected for that.
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| You make a very valid point. Lee Crooks was a much bigger waste of money for Leeds. A much bigger flop (for Leeds) than gallagher.
Why doesn't Schoey stick the boot into his boozing buddy?
He's an embittered ex pro who thinks the game owes him a living. Gallagher might not have been the greatest RL player. What annoys me more is that Schofield could've been the best but he pi[isse[/id it away as well as holding himself (and his team) back with his lousy attitude.
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| Quote ="huddersfield rhino"But people must remember GS was one of greatest every player and he should be respected for that.'"
Then he should keep his mouth shut. He is his own worst enemy.
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| I think Gallagher is a teacher at a large public school in South Londong (Colfe's I think they call it). Not sure that he was Leeds' worst ever player but certainly in the running for the most dissappointing compared to expectations
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| Quote ="Highbury Rhino"I think Gallagher is a teacher at a large public school in South Londong (Colfe's I think they call it). Not sure that he was Leeds' worst ever player but certainly in the running for the most dissappointing compared to expectations'"
I suspect that says more about expectations that it does about Gallagher.
Wasn't even Leeds least effective Union convert of that time, chuck that particular award at David Young IMO, irrespective of what he went on to do at Salford.
You wonder how much with Gallagher was about ability and how much was about character. He'd come from being part of a sporting team which was absolutely dominant on a global basis into a pretty ordinary Leeds team. Players with much less natural ability seemed to be able to cope better with the situation - Simon Irving being a prime example.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"You wonder how much with Gallagher was about ability and how much was about character. He'd come from being part of a sporting team which was absolutely dominant on a global basis into a pretty ordinary [size=150Leeds collection of cliques and egos[/size. Players with much less natural ability seemed to be able to cope better with the situation - Simon Irving being a prime example.'" Andy, my edit might help understand why he wasn't a success and the mouthpiece slagging him off was a major instigator in that.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I suspect that says more about expectations that it does about Gallagher.
Wasn't even Leeds least effective Union convert of that time, chuck that particular award at David Young IMO, irrespective of what he went on to do at Salford.
You wonder how much with Gallagher was about ability and how much was about character. He'd come from being part of a sporting team which was absolutely dominant on a global basis into a pretty ordinary Leeds team. Players with much less natural ability seemed to be able to cope better with the situation - Simon Irving being a prime example.'"
We should have signed Kirwin, not Gallagher. Now he would have been worth the money.
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| Quote ="G1"Andy, my edit might help understand why he wasn't a success and the mouthpiece slagging him off was a major instigator in that.'"
But as I stated G1, less talented players arguably managed to rise above that and contribute to a decent level - you wonder why that wasn't the case with Gallagher.
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| Good call.
I wonder if our current younger generation of fans realise just how good this current Leeds team and set up actually is. In addition I also wonder if they realise how unusual it is to have our consistently high expectations almost always being matched by performances on the field.
Heady days indeed!
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"But as I stated G1, less talented players arguably managed to rise above that and contribute to a decent level - you wonder why that wasn't the case with Gallagher.'" Did they?
What did we do during Gallagher's tenure?
I don't think the word "team" can ever be used to adequately describe any of the Leeds outfits that contained Schofield and his clique.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"But as I stated G1, less talented players arguably managed to rise above that and contribute to a decent level - you wonder why that wasn't the case with Gallagher.'"
I thought he was starting to move towards a decent standard until the spear tackle incident.
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| He was outstanding in Leeds 1990 game against the Australian tourists.
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| Quote ="Highbury Rhino"Good call.
I wonder if our current younger generation of fans realise just how good this current Leeds team and set up actually is. In addition I also wonder if they realise how unusual it is to have our consistently high expectations almost always being matched by performances on the field.
Heady days indeed!'"
I have seen some fantastic one-off performances from various Leeds teams during the 80's and early 90's and some palyers (not counting imports) that would add huge benefit to the current team - remember players like Roy Powell, Paul Dixon, Carl Gibson were in the last GB team to really match the Aussies (and a great Aussie team as well). In fact I'd say that in the last couple of years we have not seen rugby as skilfull as you could see back in those days. But the key phrase here is "one-off". Consistancy was a word that had been ripped out of all dictionaries at Headingley. And at every level. From running the club, recruitment, youth development, coaching and playing staff. How did we ever expect the team to show consistancy when it wasn't present anywhere else off the field. We had a saying amongst my mates, it was our club mantra - "Leeds never fail to dissapoint". It was the only predictable thing about the club for 20 years. Somebody said it earlier, this team is greater than the sum of it's parts - too often it was the other way around in the past.
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| Quote ="RoyFrancis"And Schoey then deliberately threw a game at Odsal. Wire supporters you thought Briers was the original dummy-spitter....as Raymondo Frog would say, "but no!"'"
which game was that?
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