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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Why would you walk away from the sport if he's found guilty of making homophobic comments?
Bulls fan in peace.
My take on it, I don't know what he said. I've no problem with him being investigated, I think it's good for Hardaker. If he's found not guilty then the case is out to bed. If he's found guilty then he should suffer the consequences.
It's not so much about the word he has POSSSIBLY used being massively offensive, or insulting people. I can't speak on behalf of others, but I don't think the gay community will be up in arms about it, the same as his previous ban.
BUT Zak Hardaker is a role model, he is a fantastic player. He is representing the sport in front of families, potential sponsors etc while people may not be offended by that, it does the sports reputation no good at all and companies may be put off being involved in RL.
Richard Keys and Andy Gray lost their jobs with sky, after years of service. I don't think the people the comments were made at ever made a complaint. But sky sacked them despite years of service because SKY's reputation is worth more than individuals.
The RFL have to investigate. IF he is found guilty then people can blame twitter and idiot supporters all their like, but Hardaker has no one to blame but himself. But that's IF he is found guilty!!
I agree I don't see how people can definitely 100% know what he said, but at the same time, people can't say 100% he didn't say the word pu** and that it's a witch hunt. A few of wanted him burning at the stake, but I think most have been it looks like it has said the word pu**.'"
Because the only reason this has come to light is because of trial by social media. It seems every club in the comp now has professional lip readers who are 100% certain he said the word 'puff'. The game as a whole is pathetic now. Does anyone remember when Wigan played at Wheldon Road and someone in the crowd threw a banana on the pitch aimed at Henerson Gill, so he picked it up, peeled it, ate it and then chucked the skin back into the stand and laughed. Shame how different things are these days. Like someone else has already commented on here, I'll find it hard to still be in love with a sport as sad as RL.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Leeds ones in particular
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Well if Leeds fans turn their backs on the game the Game will lose a large percentage of its following .
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Well if Leeds fans turn their backs on the game the Game will lose a large percentage of its following .'"
And absolutely nobody would cry a river.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"And absolutely nobody would cry a river.
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you might (and its a big might) then win a GF
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| Quote ="100% Wire"And absolutely nobody would cry a river.
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Except for pretty much every team in super league who would lose out in revenue. You think anyone would lose out in revenue if they went without your poxy clubs bus load?
No one would give 2 sh*ts.
No one gives 2 sh*ts about hardakers verbal, except for a bunch of stupid k unts on an interent forum.
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| So... if Zak is found guilty, Leeds Rhinos fans will abandon the sport completely.
Are the RFL taking note? Is that a risk worth taking?
*LOL* - Where's RL Meltdown?
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| I have watched the video a few times & i can say I haven't got a clue what Zak said.
The RFL should leave this be.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"A few hours now since this came to light, and the club have still not issued a statement backing their player despite the lad being persecuted in the press. Bit poor that.'"
Have the RFL actually said Hardaker is under investigation?
I thought they had just stated an incident is under investigation. Everyone seems to know its Zak that is the player concerned but if the RFL have not made that public maybe Leeds saying nothing at this stage is the correct thing to do.
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| Quote ="William Eve"So... if Zak is found guilty, Leeds Rhinos fans will abandon the sport completely.
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We'd be in good company, afterall you've abandoned the game in this country, right?
Better before super duper league? attendances declining? england rl worse than ever? sky's b*tches?
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"Have the RFL actually said Hardaker is under investigation?
I thought they had just stated an incident is under investigation. Everyone seems to know its Zak that is the player concerned but if the RFL have not made that public maybe Leeds saying nothing at this stage is the correct thing to do.'"
It's a valid point. But these rumours have being ongoing since Saturday, Hardaker himself hit out earlier on twitter, and surely the club must know of that. They must know how low he is feeling. The club should have acted by now publicly., IMO of course.
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| I don't think the club should rush out a statement as soon as. They would be I imagine talking to the player, the RFL , looking at the video.
An immediate statement backing Hardaker will only lead to criticism from others and won't actually do anything to quell the baying mob, probably more fuel it.
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| Quote ="Sgy Loiner" Does anyone remember when Wigan played at Wheldon Road and someone in the crowd threw a banana on the pitch aimed at Henerson Gill, so he picked it up, peeled it, ate it and then chucked the skin back into the stand and laughed. Shame how different things are these days.'"
Many of us will remember similar incidents.
I can also remember seeing black men being referred to as Chalkie by knuckle-dragging "comics", watching a blacked-up Spike Milligan in "Curry & Chips" on TV too. Women barred from public bars, signs in lodgings stating: "No dogs, gyp[is[/iies or blacks"
Fortunately the vast majority of the population have moved on from those days, I suggest you try at least catching up with them
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| So it was remarked about by Sky commentators after a try was scored and they discussed it during the game and it drew the attention of the RFL? So if the game was not televised nothing would be investigated
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"So it was remarked about by Sky commentators after a try was scored and they discussed it during the game and it drew the attention of the RFL? So if the game was not televised nothing would be investigated'"
Yes, it's a bit like: if you decided to knock one out in the privacy of your bedroom, you would be fine. If you decided to do similar in the middle of Briggate on a Saturday afternoon, there would probably be unwelcome consequencesd
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| next time he should chicken way flanagans knee, maybe cause a career ending injury. nobody will think the worse of him and he may get a 3 game ban.
but blow a kiss on the otherhand............................................................
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Yes, it's a bit like: if you decided to knock one out in the privacy of your bedroom, you would be fine. If you decided to do similar in the middle of Briggate on a Saturday afternoon, there would probably be unwelcome consequencesd'"
Last time I was on Briggate I doubt anyone would understand me and I am not xenophobic either
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| Quote ="tad rhino"next time he should chicken way flanagans knee, maybe cause a career ending injury. nobody will think the worse of him and he may get a 3 game ban.
but blow a kiss on the otherhand............................................................'"
Surely it's way past your bed time with school in the morning?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Yes, it's a bit like: if you decided to knock one out in the privacy of your bedroom, you would be fine. If you decided to do similar in the middle of Briggate on a Saturday afternoon, there would probably be unwelcome consequencesd'"
Zak is probably daft enough to invite the Sky cameras down to Briggate on a Saturday afternoon while he knocks one out.
He is several incidents just waiting to happen.
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| bloody long time since i was at school idiot
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| Quote ="tad rhino"bloody long time since i was at school idiot'"
Well stop acting child-like then. Why would someone condone injuring a fellow professional?
ZH has no-one else but himself to blame if his next match is in 2015.
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| Where did I condone it???
The fact is I've he did it then it would receive half the rubbish from people pretending to be outraged and offended from blowing a kiss. It's nothing. Homophobic my
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"it's very rare I go on any other board but this on RLFANS because I get drawn in.The site I was on was total RL.'"
Totalrl is the other site which you earlier described as reputable?
Really?
It's a site dominated by a coterie of deluded pro-franchising, pro-merger, anti-P&R zealots who hijack every thread in order to push their tiresome agenda. Many of them appear to be Leeds fans too. No surprises there.
Horrible place full of SmokeyTA-esque fog-knitters. He's probably one (or more) of the aforementioned coterie.
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| The RFL have created the state if mind to look out for players welfare after the terry Newton suicide. Having seen some of the vile abuse zac has had put on his twitter feed is nothing short of a bullying hate campaign, and the people putting these posts are far worse than anything he has said and done. Should be proud of themselves. They way he has been treated would not be surprised if he buggered of to Union Oort even worse.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"Where did I condone it???
The fact is I've he did it then it would receive half the rubbish from people pretending to be outraged and offended from blowing a kiss. It's nothing. Homophobic my booty'"
I recall many on this forum pretending to be outraged and offended over Cas fans homophobic abuse of Gareth Thomas several seasons ago.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87" I am not xenophobic either'"
Who said you were?
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