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| I was assured that one advantage of signing Buderus would be his mentoring of the hookers coming through the academy. Acquiring Lunt suggests to me that it hasn't really panned out that way.
And before anyone goes off one, this isn't meant as a criticism of Buderus the player.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"I was assured that one advantage of signing Buderus would be his mentoring of the hookers coming through the academy. Acquiring Lunt suggests to me that it hasn't really panned out that way.
And before anyone goes off one, this isn't meant as a criticism of Buderus the player.'"
Some learn faster than others. Some don't even listen.
Don't also forget that Buderus left a year earlier than planned.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"I was assured that one advantage of signing Buderus would be his mentoring of the hookers coming through the academy. Acquiring Lunt suggests to me that it hasn't really panned out that way.
And before anyone goes off one, this isn't meant as a criticism of Buderus the player.'"
In fairness you can never guarantee the results of a mentoring programme. The mentored may not have the ability or the will to listen. Not saying that's the case here, but if it hadn't worked out, hindsight is a very powerful tool.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"
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I'm glad as well Nant!
But if we sign Lunt it raises interesting selection choices as you say. If you had Lunt/Hood as starting/bench hookers plus Ward as 'impact hooker' with Sinfield back to 13 that would mean one of JJB/Delaney/Ablett on the bench and the other 2 starting leaving room for just 2 props on the bench. IMO 2 props, a back row and playmaker back/forward/half back is a better balance for attacking rugby.
The problem will be Sinfield's reluctance to return to 13. I have a feeling that Sinny could end up as a distributing 9 if he is not expected to make a big tackling stint each week like Burrow. Kev has the ability to make a long pass from acting half back which I would like to see with a deep set back line. This would allow Ward to play at 13 and with Burrow at 7 and Mags at 6 we would have plenty of pivots.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"I agree Lunt to start with Burrow off the bench. Unfortunately I don't think Burrow would stick around for long with that 'deal' and indeed it looks like he negotiated that idea off the options list during the close season. It will therefore probably be Burrow remaining as first choice starting hooker with Lunt off the bench.
However, I am also an advocate for giving Hood and Ward as many games as possible this season.
Ward should now be bench 'impact' player (better than the ageing Manu) and I'd be inclined to also accomodate Hood by including him as the interchange bench hooker.
With Lunt's signing this would mean Burrow starting at SH (McGuire and Sinfield back to their old positions too).
McShane is surplus and for me would be the one loaned out.
I'm actually glad I'm not the coach
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Agree with all that, Having seen Hood in the u20's he does offer the same as burrow would in the hooking role. He has pace and an eye for a gap.
He will only get better with more first team action, Mcshane hasn't kicked on as he was expected to.
Maybe BMD has realised now that our 6 7 13 should play in their correct positions, I hope so
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| Maybe hull will take Macca back on loan, Given their liking for players with Leeds connections at the moment.
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| I think IF he signs then Hood will go out on loan and posssibly Mcshane aswell unless he's the bench 9.
For me Ward whether this season or next is the incumbant 13 so again that raises questions about Sinny staying at 6.
Of course Ward could become the "Impact" BR which would balance a move back to 13 for Sinfield and Mags and Burrow at 6 + 7 respectively with Lunt and Mcshane taking the 9 duties.
Some big calls to be made but imo it would be a mistake to lose Mcshane or Hood permanently.
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| is the lunt deal with the oppurtunity for a permenant signing at the end of the season
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| Quote ="Rastrick Rhino"Maybe hull will take Macca back on loan, Given their liking for players with Leeds connections at the moment.'"
Or Widnes.
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| Im confused why are so many ppl intent on switching sinfield back to LF surely having him lead us to the grande final and winning playing then in the WCC and winning then having sinfield at SO works for the team and also burrow at hooker is definately working i dont think ive ever seen him
In better form than back end of last year and first few of this 'if it aint broke dont fix it '
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| a complete full strength side for me would be:
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bjb watkins hardaker hall
sinfield mcguire
bailey lunt jp
delaney jjb
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burrow, griffin, kylie, clarkson
drip feed ward, hood and mcshane into the 17 on a weekly basis depending on the opposition
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"I agree Lunt to start with Burrow off the bench. Unfortunately I don't think Burrow would stick around for long with that 'deal' and indeed it looks like he negotiated that idea off the options list during the close season. It will therefore probably be Burrow remaining as first choice starting hooker with Lunt off the bench.'"
I'm pretty sure the coach picks the team and the players play where they're told. I've never heard of a player negotiating where he will and won't play in the off season
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| Still no confirmation!!!!
Could it have fallen through??
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| He just wrote this on his twitter
@Shaun_Lunt
"Thanks for all your messages of support, not one negative comment, much appreciated.. It will be released tomorrow of where I will be goin"
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| One poster saying Widnes on the Giants board.
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| I've not seen anough of Lunt to comment but would be disapointed because if we are to sign anybody it needs to be a vast improvement on what we have. This year as many were shouting when Mcshane and hood weren't previously getting gametime was all about them trying to establish themselves and here you are writing them off. For what it's worth I think Mcshane as he gets more time is going Ok and as a lot more to offer as the confidence grows and the same for Hood.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"One poster saying Widnes on the Giants board.'"
That would make more sense as I still don't believe he's coming to us as I can't see we have a need for another hooker and IF he does end up here on loan with a view to a permanent signing then that surely has to spell the death knell for one of McShane or Hood which given the vote of confidence both have been given I just don't think the Lunt signing is going to happen.
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"That would make more sense as I still don't believe he's coming to us as I can't see we have a need for another hooker and IF he does end up here on loan with a view to a permanent signing then that surely has to spell the death knell for one of McShane or Hood which given the vote of confidence both have been given I just don't think the Lunt signing is going to happen.'"
I agree Lunt is a good young player and is commensurate with my mantra that if a player becomes available - at the right price - and he is better than what we already have (in this case, McShane) then he should be signed. However, I too find it strangely contradictory to the long term deals both incumbent rakes were recently given: to send one out on loan would then smack of a cruel debilitating lack of faith from the club in that player.
Time will tell I guess.
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Quote ="Omar Little"Confirmed:
www.therhinos.co.uk/news/19127.php?
I thinks Hudds are mad (moore is probably a better player but can't see how he's worth the gamble given his issues)'"
gutted -
Getting a quality player!
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www.therhinos.co.uk/news/19127.php?
I thinks Hudds are mad (moore is probably a better player but can't see how he's worth the gamble given his issues)'"
gutted -
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| Lunt gives something we are missing at the moment. Very good signing.
Those posting here who sit near me will have a wry smile now, as I predicted this and called for it at the Easter Monday game.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"
I thinks Hudds are mad (moore is probably a better player but can't see how he's worth the gamble given his issues)'"
Lunt
Daylight
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God knows what Lunts done, be a huge hole to fill and Moore certainly cant fill it.
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| Really pleased with this. He's a good player Lunt, and he'll add something rather than just filling a hole.
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| Astute move. McShane has not shown enough class to be considered as first choice and Hood while showing promise is not quite ready yet for a permanent step up. Without Burrow starting at 9 we have been below par and we need him on the pitch for the majority of games. It will be interesting to see if B McD uses a Burrow/Lunt combination at 9 to keep Sinny at 6 or if now we see Mags back to SO. Whatever the line up Lunt adds quality to the squad
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| Quote ="Gahan"Lunt
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Moore
God knows what Lunts done, be a huge hole to fill and Moore certainly cant fill it.'"
I think you’re doing Moore a disservice here. Lunt is a great signing for us (even if only a loan deal) but Moore will fill the hole left more than adequately.
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