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| Quote ="Wadski"From our experience the reason the player is out on loan is to keep him tied with his home club and release his salary from the cap. I am guessing you are up to cap and therefore would be over if they recalled him.'"
Yes, he is not on Leeds' cap because he has not played in SL for Leeds this year, however, salary cap liability for the top 25 players is quite complex. BJB could come back as a second tier player in terms of his salary cap liability, but I would think Kallum's injury will mean his salary liability will reduce because he will no longer be receiving playing and win bonuses, so that might mean that BJB's cap liability could replace Kallum's and Kallum could take up space on the second tier cap limit and not the first tier!
I hope that makes some sort of sense, but suggest you read the operational rules if you want to know more about how it works in detail.
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| From YEP online
With winger Ryan Hall also having taken a knock to a leg against Huddersfield, recalling Ben Jones-Bishop from his loan spell at Harlequins is a possibility.
"We will consider all our options," McClennan said. "But Ben Jones-Bishop is primarily a full-back."
[urlhttp://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leedsrhinosnews/Leeds-Rhinos-Injuries-are-part.6157340.jp[/url
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| So sounds like we'll be more likely to bring in a winger on loan for a spell then than recall BJB?
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| Quote ="SouthStanderDave"So sounds like we'll be more likely to bring in a winger on loan for a spell then than recall BJB?'"
But whom? Anyone out of favour who is a winger that would make a better option than BJB?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"But whom? Anyone out of favour who is a winger that would make a better option than BJB?'"
But would BJB be better playing on the wing or Fullback?
If the club decide fullback then you look at whom. I would suggest possibly Calvert considering our relationship with Whitehaven. Or is Penney still contract to Warrington for possible loan?
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| Too bad that Wigan have loaned Ainscough out already otherwise I would have took him on loan.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"From YEP online
With winger Ryan Hall also having taken a knock to a leg against Huddersfield, recalling Ben Jones-Bishop from his loan spell at Harlequins is a possibility.
"We will consider all our options," McClennan said. "But Ben Jones-Bishop is primarily a full-back."
[urlhttp://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leedsrhinosnews/Leeds-Rhinos-Injuries-are-part.6157340.jp[/url
He said it again...?'"
BJB has started 3 games for leeds under Bluey, and 2 have been on the wing.
I think he'd make a decent enough fist of the wing for a few months.
basically its about balancing the needs of the club and the player
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| Quote ="Gotcha"If the club decide fullback then you look at whom. I would suggest possibly Calvert considering our relationship with Whitehaven. Or is Penney still contract to Warrington for possible loan?'"
Personally, I'd rather see either Bush or Chisholm get a go first before we start looking at loans of players who aren't up to SL standard anyway.
Injuries provide young players with opportunities, it's up to them to grasp them with both hands.
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| I'll laugh my bollox off if we recall him and leave Quins without a decent full back.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Personally, I'd rather see either Bush or Chisholm get a go first before we start looking at loans of players who aren't up to SL standard anyway.
Injuries provide young players with opportunities, it's up to them to grasp them with both hands.'"
Agreed, its how the likes of McGuire, Burrow and Diskin got their chance
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| Quote ="Blue 'n Amber"I'll laugh my bollox off if we recall him and leave Quins without a decent full back.'"
they'd have a matching set
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| Quote ="Blue 'n Amber"I'll laugh my bollox off if we recall him and leave Quins without a decent full back.'"
They'd just play Chris Melling back in his natural position instead, so even if Leeds do recall Jones-Bishop they've got a decent replacement.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"They'd just play Chris Melling back in his natural position instead, so even if Leeds do recall Jones-Bishop they've got a decent replacement.'"
Why did they need BJB in the first place? Dont rate Melling?
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| No recall at the moment given the just released squad. I think Coady will get a run as a starting winger with Bush losing out, all assuming that Delaney, Hall and Webb are fit!
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| Quote ="Blue 'n Amber"I'll laugh my bollox off if we recall him and leave Quins without a decent full back.'"
You are very easily amused. Simple minds etc.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"They'd just play Chris Melling back in his natural position instead, so even if Leeds do recall Jones-Bishop they've got a decent replacement.'"
Indeed. Melling can play anywhere on the backline (apparently).
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"You are very easily amused. Simple minds etc.'"
His one time wife was fit I'll give you that but not really my kind of band tbh.
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| It seems, like me, Mclennan views BJB as an out and out full back.
I would leave him where he is unless he's comingback to play full back. Like Mr Gilder says, give a winger from wthin our own system an opportunity.
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| Quote ="G1"It seems, like me, Mclennan views BJB as an out and out full back.
I would leave him where he is unless he's comingback to play full back. Like Mr Gilder says, give a winger from wthin our own system an opportunity.'"
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"You must have been busy today?
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Miss me?
Been in that there London. Sat on a train on my way back oop North as we type. Stationary in the middle of a frikkin field somewhere.
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| Is this the same Brian McClennan who has previously been prepared to select Jones-Bishop on the wing twice for Leeds.
I wonder if coach McClennan sees all his players only in their preferred positions now?
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| I can't think of any reason why BJB could not perform well on the wing.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Is this the same Brian McClennan who has previously been prepared to select Jones-Bishop on the wing twice for Leeds.
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Yes it is. Maybe that is what helped him reach that conclusion?
Quote I wonder if coach McClennan sees all his players only in their preferred positions now?'" I'd imagine he sees more versatility value in some players than others, wouldn't you?
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| If the situation arose, I'd say a better bet was to shift Webb to either centre or wing and put BJB in at full back.
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| Quote ="G1"icon_biggrin.gif Miss me?
Been in that there London. Sat on a train on my way back oop North as we type. Stationary in the middle of a frikkin field somewhere.'"
Yes, sort of, a bit like athletes foot! You know, you like to have it, now and again, because it is good to pick at, but not all the time as gets on your nerves!
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