Don't mate, you're dealing with the terminally dim in Emma it's not fair

yawn

by the way how many forward passes did he miss today Leeds call it a flat pass

Unsurprising that you resort to personal abuse straight away.

You sad, sad excuse of a man.

No idea. We were behind the sticks, so it was impossible to tell.

leeds constantly getting penalised for holding down is directly the fault of the coach, since he has come in the difference compared to leeds under smith a few years ago is obvious to all who watch. trying to slow the PTB at each tackle seems to be a bluey trait.better get used to being on the wrong end of the penalty count.

wakefield took their chances better today and had a better completion rate. IMO that was about the only difference.

2 out of 2 compared to 2 out of 4?



We have been used to losint the penalty count for a couple of years now. Hasnt affected us too much though in the warmer months has it.



As a few Wakey fans have said on here tonight, once we sharpen up we will be hard to beat. Saints had a similar start 2 years ago and still went on to come top. 24 games to go yet.

Aww how sweet.

i had texts from 2 leeds fans who said he was awful and my neighbour is a wakey fan and he said the same!

anyhows, it also seems to be a bluey trait we start start slowly and build up to october. a leeds first teamer told me he likes this approach and they do a lot of fitness work during the season.
the first month of the season always throws up odd results,teams are at differant stages of fitness, grounds are poor, referees always seem to be stricter. come march/april things will have settled down.

i have every faith that come play off time we will be firing on all cylinders.

Top post. Leeds fans complaining about the ref because they've lost, welcome to the club.

Granted but game plans need to be flexible.If you are constantly getting pinged for an offence then if the players are not quick enough to realise then the coaching team need to be.

In this league now you cannot afford to have 17-7 penalty counts as more times than not you are going to get beat.

take a bow son,

honesty and truthful

This is what I always find myself saying about players from any team. Ref's are very inconsistent and as you say don't all penalise for the same offences.
I think Child was a bit generous in our favour in the first half but as you say players should learn faster and if a ref is penalising for slowing down the PTB then they need to learn to roll away quicker.

As for the OP I think you need to watch your own players when defending your line as none of them had feet behind the line either, as most teams don't but it is one offence that ref's hardly ever seem to penalise yet it must be one of the easiest to spot.

All he's said is what most of us feel anyway.

We generally dont blame refs. We certainly dont start petitions to get one out of SL when he's had a perfectly good game but our team lost.

That's Trinity fans job

Congratulations on your win today

you forgot to tell how many trophies you got

My problem with Child is that both teams (IMO and it may be biased towards Leeds) played the same way in the tackle yet Leeds were penalised a lot more. If you take off the Webb dissent and the Watkins offside from the kick I can't see where we commited twice as many penalties as Wakefield. That said we gave them momentum with poor ball control and the majority of the time the team with momentum gets the advantage in the penalty count.

On the other hand with a bit more composure we could have quite easily scored another 2 tries to snatch at least a draw so we're not a million miles away. Congratulations to Wakefield on the win, best team definitely won.

If I could read the above I'd try to accommodate but I doubt anyone would understand if I simply posted that guff.

What does it say?

.......like I said.

Wakefield Trinity Wildcats 28 - Leeds Rhinos 18.

Simple enough for you?



Ask yer 'bird' for a tissue now. Love.

you got beat fair and square same old leeds blaming anybody but themselves get over it you will still be at old trafford

Much improved performance on last week! The ball moving about a lot easier and some fantastic tackles in the second half
I felt there is still a lot of problem holding onto the ball and looking for repeat sets, as I have said before Mcguire is not the best of kickers and he seemed to be doing most of it today, hasn't learned his lesson on when to kick after getting away with it at Cas last year

The ref was very inconsistent and at times laughably bad, if the attacking team kicks the ball and hits his teammate in the back of the head that's probably offside and a penalty


The play of the ball is very messy this year, I've noticed it in the sky games as well and it changes from game to game

What are players supposed to do when they've been killed by offloads so they try their damndest to stop the major perpetrator by clamping his hand and the ball to stop the offload? That attacking player then struggles to offload the ball & drops it in the effort of trying to offload & the referee penalises the defending player who had his hand on the ball. When the defending player, who happens to be the skipper, queries the decision he is sin-binned.

Put your toys back in the pram.

/respect mate.

It takes a lot of integrity to go against the flow and say it how you see it on the back of a loss like that.

My thoughts;

We had enough ball to win the game at a canter - our attack was pretty average on the day.

Childs wasn't brilliant to say the least but we should have won despite his reffing style.

The biggest issue for me was Brough onside for the interception - I would suspect not but it is impossible to tell from behind the sticks.

We lost 4 tries to 3 and bombed 4-5 serious chances, some down to good last ditch defence from Wakey.

The concern for me is the interplay between Burrow and Sinfield which seems all at sea at the moment, the lack of impact from either Buderus or Senior and the inconsistency of some players - early season though

On the positives; Webb was excellent, Bailey as good as he played, Eastwood looks like he could do some damage and Hall's defence when they were down to 12 was superb.

Cannot win every week