I can sort of see what you are saying but it doesn't always happen. Injury on the wing and a below average Aussie is used there, when he is injured we move our quality centre there, the centre position is used up by SR. Wards injury hasn't really lead to a chance for the youngsters, hardaker injured again our centre is shifted there. So far JP missing hasn't lead to singleton getting a shot there. You could also argue that after the knee injury if JP had been rested he might not be missing now. Also mcshane it appears is only allowed one error, as soon as that happens he is pulled off never to be seen again.
Now not trusting the youth players may be down to them not being up to the job NO ONE on here knows for definate either way.
Regarding your last point regarding quality players need to play regardless I agree and disagree!

The odd off game I don't think players should be dropped
For but constant under performance then for me they need a rest to re charge either physically or mentally

Calm dear dears!

We've played 13 games
- 9 vs top 8 teams
- 2 of remaining 4 took place before WCC and we needed to go full strength to prepare for that.
- 1 vs HKR away, where Wire and Saints (twice) have lost this year.

We've managed to put ourselves in a much stronger league position than in previous years when we ended up playing catch up from around 8th place.


We've got 14 games yet to play
- only 6 of them are against top 8 teams.
- that'll be only 4 from 12 after games vs Wigan and Hull coming up next.
- leaving 8 more suitable games.

Wigan have won the League twice, the Challenge Cup and the Grand Final in the last four years.

Awake yet?

But what silverware do Wigan have?

There has been nothing wrong with the Leeds morale or team spirit. In fact by sticking with the same core players they have built a unique winning ethos. Any young player who wants to play for the Champions has to learn patience and mental toughness which if they are good enough the club will repay with loyalty to the player.

We had games ast London ,Salord and Cas at home to rotate 1 or 2 players IRRESPECTIVE of form its the plan the Coach and Skipper openly declared pre-season and we had chances to get Singleton and co more gametime plus a chance for a young winger/FB to get some gametime in.
We learn nothing sticking with the same 17 against teams we should and often beat in 2nd gear and i'm not saying we should rest 5/6 at once either.
JP and Kylie as good as they've been are entering their twighlight years so to keep putting them both in the team and in JP's case doing 60mins+ week in week out will hasten their retirements and imo leave us needing 2 frontline FR's when both eventually do call it a day and we are left with Moore 34+ and kirke 34+ and then younger forwards like Singleton ,Baldwinson et al still way short of experience IF they remain with us.
Now even worse should we get hit with 3/4 injuries at once to the FR/BR they'll again have to come in pretty cold and under pressure which imo can easily be avoided by giving them stints when clear chances arise.
We've done great over the years using those approaches and like i said the Coach has done a great job with the young back-line and to be fair IF he's still here he'll have to over-see the biggest turnover of players since Powell so why be so reluctant to do what he said he intended to do anyway??
As for talk of being ready or loan spells etc just because they aren't on loan doesn't mean they aren't ready the ones often mentioned are clearly above the u19 level at which they are playing and giving them short spells in the 1st team will at worst give us a better indication of who to keep and where to recruit.
You don't have to be a SL winning Coach to see what's just around the corner re-this excellent crop of home grown lads/signings with their imminent/future retirements ,slow down etc etc.
As for Sinfield and Mcguire for me Mags should have be rested/benched already but now should stay at 7 for now,Sinfield back at 13 whilst Ward is out and Burrow on the bench with Sutcliffe given the HB role for a couple of games.
IF Mags still performs as bad then Burrow comes on at 7 and Mcshane stays at 9 or if Sutcliffe suffers we can revert back it's forward planning imo of course i doubt it will happen against Wigan and Hull but we have chance after that where the fixtures are not as intense and after the Exiles game aswell.

I could not have put it all better myself: I absolutely concur.

Fair play to the Coach great to see Singleton and Sutcliffe get plenty of minutes today i hope they remain in the 17 for the foreseeable future and lets hope we can build on their experience with maybe 1 or 2 more getting game time down the line.

Thought the halves were myself against Wigan. Their decision making is all over the place ATM.

I'd like to see Sutcliffe at 6 next week Mcshane start at 9 with Sinfield back at 13 and either Mags/RB at 7 with other on the bench.

Don't know about Sutcliffe at 6 mate but defo start McShane, Burrow on the bench and Sinny back at loose.

Will be interesting to see Watkins tackle count again this week. Has there ever been a centre asked to defend as centrally as he is being asked to at the moment?

Good point TVOC thought he tackled like a machine in the middle.

The combination of McGuire, Burrow and Sinfield has been very, very good for Leeds.

There is no space for sentiment in sport however, and it needs freshening up. The better teams have figured out that you need to fly up on Sinfield and McGuire to pressure them into errors, while if you just hold your line against Burrow he will have nowhere to go.

Sutcliffe needs to get a run of games as a pivot, and McShane needs to see more time at hooker. That means two out of the three above have to miss out, and it's McGuire and Burrow for me.

Sadly, I don't think either Hetherington or McDermott will be able to put personal loyalty aside to make the hard decisions. They'll just keep doling out contracts until these players make the decisions themselves to call time on their careers.

Obviously gutted we lost but definitely optimistic about the team both sutty and and singo looked good and with mcshane on we looked more structured and enthusiastic singo runs on to ball like he means it. Really don't like to see our forwards take the ball standing still/flat . If we could cut out the silly pens that would be good too.much better from the boys .

Burrow's service from acting half is really poor and causes our attack a lot of its problems. When he steps out of dummy half he looks much better, but his passing off the ground is frankly atrocious at times. That uncertainty of how fast/slow he'll pass, and whether the first receiver will have to pick it off their feet or above their head crushes any attempt at fluid play. I mentioned before that even Thurston looks a shadow of his former self with that kind of service from acting half.

Sutcliffe (like Singleton) deserves a long run in the first 17. McShane deserves a long run as starting no.9

They both did very well but should not be overplayed. Sutcliffe made 30 tackles (+ 6 missed tackles) and may need a bit more recovery time. The coach must pick the 17 players that offer the best chances of a win for each game. The youngsters will keep getting their chances.

I agree......as long as McDermott's favourites remain injured of course.

McShane on for the full 80 with Burrow coming off the bench.

Well, first thing to say, clearly I wasn't wanting a player to removed from the halves via a broken leg. So whatever I say here I want that to be clear.

However, it does present McD' with an opportunity to move things about without the wrath of the media or players.

For me we should be looking to give Sutcliffe and Burrow a run at 6 and 7, Sinny back at 13 and McShane the full 80 minutes. Most importantly as well we need to give this combination a good month to bed in.

The only worry is that with the other injuries we have we a light in term of creativity coming off the bench and apart from brute force we are going to lack any guile if things aren't going well for the 13 on the pitch.

The coach must pick the side that will keep him in a job for the longest possible time - not quite the same thing.

Yes it is. If he keeps picking the best side to win a game then this also is his best chance of extending his open-ended ccontract

Wrong again - if he picks the most experienced side it cannot be said he didn't pick the strongest side on paper provided by the CEO. That puts the CEO in a difficult position if the strongest side on paper isn't good enough then the blame shifts. The fact that Sutcliffe may be a better option than JJB is irrelevant - if he picks JJB and they lose he has - in theory - used the best players provided by the CEO.

There is not much of a side to pick when 16 of the side pick themselves irregardless of form, or injury come to think of it!!