you do make me laugh

What I can't understand with this is if I went to a place where i did not like the activities of other people who liked a drink and on top of that was witnessing a sub standard product put in front of me for which I pay good money why would I keep going? I know people are entitled to opinions but hey if its upsetting that much try something else less stressful. BTW sober at the time of posting but cant guarantee that next time

Your allowed getting ed at RL games if people dont like that thats up to them but they should not try to prevent other people enjoying the rugby in there style.

HTH

I've nothing against people having a drink. In many respects I've nothing against their being drunk. My point is just that your self perception when drunk might not match other people's perception of you.

New Zealand faired far worse when McClennan stepped down so to answer your question yes.

Leeds are not playing great but are you saying that value for money can be measured in wins or great attacking displays? Let's face this is not the first slump in form this has suffered since Powell stepped down 2006 it went on for a whole season!!!

All those - you included - who suggest Smith was a tactical genius and McClennan is rah rah man explain this - compare the records for 2007 and 2008 with virtually identical squads - McClennan beats Smith in every category - how can that be?

Not only that, his local team is Bramley but he turned his back on them to follow Leeds.



I agree. Winning the World cup is a real step backwards.

Why should you not be allowed to get drunk cos people like you dont like it.

Not true

If you read what he actually says, it doesn't say you can't get drunk as he doesn't like it, its people spoiling his enjoyment of the game which peeves him

Good thread this, might grab a few beers and read it again.

Because it spoils the game for other people. If some drunk spoils my enjoyment of the game they wont be watching the rest of the game.

Ah, so you'd drop down to their level then...?

Is getting them removed by a steward dropping to their level?

Lol, I was referring to your 'smack in the mouth' quote a few pages back...

Going to grass them up then?

Player ratings from YEP: www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 5342377.jp Made a change to see that Donald had no ball, Burgess knocked on, Ablett's penalties, Bailey didn't get going and JP was the best forward.

Player ratings from YEP: www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 5342377.jp Made a change to see that Donald had no ball, Burgess knocked on, Ablett's penalties, Bailey didn't get going and JP was the best forward.

Quote ="thebloodbath"Player ratings from YEP: www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 5342377.jp Made a change to see that Donald had no ball, Burgess knocked on, Ablett's penalties, Bailey didn't get going and JP was the best forward. '" You've missed the real biggie in there the overall penalty count of 12 - 5 to Les Catalans and Leeds losing the count 4- zip in the second half. It makes you wonder how they manage to compete at all at times.

Quote ="thebloodbath"Player ratings from YEP: www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 5342377.jp Made a change to see that Donald had no ball, Burgess knocked on, Ablett's penalties, Bailey didn't get going and JP was the best forward. '" You've missed the real biggie in there the overall penalty count of 12 - 5 to Les Catalans and Leeds losing the count 4- zip in the second half. It makes you wonder how they manage to compete at all at times.

Your not wrong.

They are their own worst enemies at times.

It would have been fantastic if they had sneaked the win, but with the margin they were losing by, would have been masked.

Least now it highlights that the game wasn't lost in the last minute. It was before then.

Plently of work to do. Also undermines the forward strides we have been taking.

A game against the in form Giants is exactly what we need now. It brought the best out of us at the Galpharm a few weeks back, let's see if the fixture generates a similar performance and result.

YEP.

Was going to post my opinions on this thread, but what is the point?

The most Boring thread in Southstander history is this one.

Where's that then?

Dunno lad, I've only just been let back on, but that Leeds Rhinos Superman lad quoted you as saying it on the last page.

At the risk of interrupting the special needs class having a discussion unrelated to the game I was at the match and you've highlighted the problem. Its' not a new one. Its' one I bemoaned last year whilst our coach was being proclaimed the greatest ever.

We can discuss the quality and depth of our squad, we can discuss team strengthening. All are debatable factors. What is not is that NO TEAM in the league can overcome the hurdles we give ourselves week after week after week.

We give away possession and territory continually at crucial parts of the game.

This current coach doesn't appear to be able to fix it. It seems to be getting worse.

The quality of the team showed for ten or 15 mins yesterday when they eventually threw away the game plan, played some expansive rugby and nearly climbed the mountain they had given themselves to climb.

McLennan is failing and failing badly in one respect. I am not talking about results. I don;t expect wins. We don't have a right to them. I do have the right to expect the coach to deal with this fundamental issue nearly 2 years into his reign.

Sort out the discipline and this squad, with our without signings, can still win the Grand Final. Don't and we won't, with or without signings.

Leeds won the Grand Final last year.



Leeds won the Grand Final last year.




Leeds won the Grand Final last year.



Whilst I broadly agree with your obvious frustration (and it's one I share) if Leeds don't win the Grand Final this year it'll be more because of the non replacement of personnel rather than the continuing ill discipline that didn't prevent Leeds winning the Grand Final last year.

Is it true that it was an extra amount of time spent on the treadmill for anyone guilty of giving needless and stupid pens away under TS' reign?

Good idea.

The discipline didn't seem to reach these levels last year. It did get worse as the year went on and Smith's influence wore off and Bluey's too effect.

If Leeds start winning the penalty count regularly they will win the GF this year as well, btw.