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| I'm not bigoted but I do avoid RU most of the time on TV ,newspapers and never go on Cross code when I visit that forum
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| So we hired someone under GREAT fanfare who couldn't do the job we hired him to do?
"Leeds Carnegie’s executive chairman tasked with, among other things, building relationships with businesses, sponsors and clubs across the county"
Who, also had "been the driving force behind the controversial name change to Yorkshire Carnegie" that went down like a cup of cold sick.
He's partly right that the Yawnion should have had there own marketing dept, I mean we only have one of the best marketing depts / corporate contact lists for the RL so I mean that 20% of staff time would be used to go after these delicate, unique kick and clappers non?
He's failed, he's failed big and like anyone in that position he's shifting blame onto what he see's as the "inferior code" which will be lapped up by the sycophants in the media.
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| The whinging Turd also forgetsto mention the 500k theRhinos put in only to get 45k back when they folded.
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| I'm quite liberal,but I have to say I couldn't care less about Rugby Union . People who follow both good luck to you ,but me ? I didnt watch one minute of The " Ragby " world cup . The fact that they had the arrogance to call it Rugby wc makes me despise it all the more
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| I honestly couldn’t care less
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| Should never have changed from Leeds to Yorkshire. Loads turned away after this. Change back to Leeds and they have a chance to rebuild. Stay as it is and it'll be dead in 4 years
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| I personally don’t think they’ll be around next year when they are relegated to the third tier of unions game, especially when the crowds are low at HQ already.
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| I’m sure a reasonably successful Union side could have been a benefit to the Rhinos in terms of cost sharing and profits from the facilities.
But that’s just a massive pathetic whinge from McGeechan.
If he didn’t like the arrangement then renegotiate it or pay for your own bloody staff and pay the full market rate of playing in the stadium.
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"My understanding is that Hetherington got spooked by the figures. When Leeds Tykes were in the Premiership and looking to cement their stature as a club, it was explained to both Caddick and Hetherington that for the money that they were paying their International RL players they wouldn't get anyone good enough to compete in the Premiership. If they wanted to compete they had to pay the cash.
Caddick got this and was happy to go go for it, Hetherington flat refused to pay middle of the road Union players twice what World Class League players were on.
For me allowing Hetherington to have his way killed Carnegie as a club. It takes time, had Caddick persisted the Union side would be a serious brand. As it is it is failing.'"
I'm not surprised GH was spooked by the figures, they're mind bending. Two top players at many RU clubs will earn the entire SL cap. Saracens lose 2-3 million quid a year on top of a cap of 7.5 million + the extra they are allowed to spend over that for their internationals and plus all the money they were siphoning into player "businesses".
It's a shame, I agree, there must be loads of great young players who have to travel elsewhere to play.
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| Gloves come off Gary hits back at " sir" Ian
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| The wages in RU are utterly unsustainable even with their much higher income. To compete you've got to be willing and able to sustain big losses every year. Pro RU like many sports is not a 'business' in any normal sense. If Leeds saw that and backed off sobeit.
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| I don't pay much attention to premiership RU, but last time I looked attendances were brutally the she as super league's. I know there are other factor's like a better TV deal, and additional income from what was the Heineken cup, but it feels like there isn't the base for all cost unless the trickle down from internationals is significant.
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| Quote ="The Eagle"I don't pay much attention to premiership RU, but last time I looked attendances were brutally the she as super league's. I know there are other factor's like a better TV deal, and additional income from what was the Heineken cup, but it feels like there isn't the base for all cost unless the trickle down from internationals is significant.'"
You're not far wrong.
Having said that Wasps were pulling over 20k per home game a couple of seasons ago after they moved to Coventry and Bath are sold out every home game -but the ground is very small. The international game though is on a different planet. I guess it's a bit like cricket in that regard.
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| If Yorkshire Carnegie move away from Headingley could we see the revival of a lower league RL club playing out of Headingley? Would be great to see Bramley playing in League One on dual reg with Leeds.
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| I'm not sure Bramley have a team any more do they?
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| Bramley buffalo's I think they play in Rodley
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| Relegation to the third tier of rugby union ladder confirmed today.
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| Lets be done with it , never a good idea !
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| Quote ="Frosties."Relegation to the third tier of rugby union ladder confirmed today.'"
Been on the cards for a while I'm afraid.
Leeds just doesn't have the appetite for RU to sustain itself in Leeds in the current guise.
I know there were many discussions about the direction and running of the club, but it is still sad that the professional game is albeit defunct in this area.
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"Been on the cards for a while I'm afraid.
Leeds just doesn't have the appetite for RU to sustain itself in Leeds in the current guise.
I know there were many discussions about the direction and running of the club, but it is still sad that the professional game is albeit defunct in this area.'"
The funding for everything below the top flight had been slashed recently, the virus situation won't help finances, Saracens going down may bounce straight back, I suspect after the end of the next season, whenever that is, the top flight will be effectively ring fenced.
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| Whilst ever there is a lack of top flight union in the North that can only be good for R.L
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| Confirmation that they are reverting back to Leeds Tykes and are moving out of Headingley permanently to West Leeds RUFC
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| We won't miss the man but I suppose the dog was useful for scaring away the pigeons on gameday.
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