Delaney was given the number 15 shirt for a reason. It's almost inconceivable that he will still be in favour next season regardless of contracts. That said he's one of the first names on the teamsheet for me based on his form since shifting into the second row in 2011.

Leeds don't often go back (although occasionally they do) I'd be hoping they'd make another rare exception if Ellis was affordable and eager to rejoin the club as his first choice but that wouldn't be at Delaney's expence.

wtf are you all on about - the guy is clearly passed it and Wests know it adn must have had a word wiht him.
ok he might get in in front on WH but no one else

lets look to the future more positively, ...move on!

I haven't. So fully expect him to go to the Wolves, tho my preference for the sake of Superleague would be for him to go to Cas or Wakey or even (whisper it quietly) the Bulls.

My preference is that he goes to Wigan, but they don't realise he has a "Harris clause" in his contract...

honestly, grow up and live in the now!

Good, solid, dependable player in his time, but never a great player and certainly not in the world class bracket. Improved somewhat during his stint at West Tigers as coach Tim Sheens had to re-educate him, teach him how to defend and insist he went [url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rl-headlines/ex_rhino_ellis_has_to_go_back_to_basics_1_2205303back to basics[/url.

Like Morley, collected a few rave reviews down under - which panders to Aussie self-belief in their ability to turn an ordinary pom into a good one - but never really cut the mustard in internationals and has been a disappointment at that level. NRL clubs are very astute when it comes to judging when a players best days are behind him and Ellis's time is clearly up there after 3 seasons of hard graft.

Should Leeds sign him? No. They don't need him.

What? A top NRL player isn't good enough for the fifth best Super League side?

It would be nice to have him back but no doubt Leeds will have to pay over the odds to get him.

Contra Gotcha, I think Delaney offers far more bang for the buck in the second-row and has the advantage of being a lot younger.

Good God you're boring.

You said this was the very reason you questioned the new Delaney deal and I'm not sure why that's all.

Kirke got a new deal so why isn't he stopping Ellis from coming back?, I would rather get rid of Kirke or Huaraki way before Delaney to bring Ellis back, Ellis is English so I'm not sure what Delaneys quota spot has to do with that.

And thanks for the maths lesson.

He types garbage, you question it and he fires back with "not sure what you're arguing about".

It's how it works.

Or you could interpret Sheens comments as an embarrassment to him and the NRL. If a Pom from the inferior league who needs teaching the basics goes on to be Wests player of the year what does that say about the Aussie competition?

This I think is on the money. Ellis has been somewhat of a disappointment to me at international level even going back to his Leeds days. Dominating in his domestic league but not in the same sense in the internationals.

They didn't need Buderus either.

Most unfair to say Delaney "does a job but is no great shakes" Delaney is our most effective forward this season. His averages make him highest metre maker and has the best metres per game, he has made the most carries and carries per game and he is our top tackler and shares the highest number of tackles per game with JJB.

Delaney is averaging over 100mtrs per game and is making 16+ carries per game and is putting in 31 tackles per game - OK only 4 games played this season but he shows no sign of playing any other way. I would be suprised if Ellis averaged anything like these stats and even if he had done then it is most unlikley that he will be able to do when aged 32

Yeah, guess we'll have to make do with Ellis since we missed out on Lauaki. Gutted.

RG has this belief our acadamy isn't producing and we only sign 30 somethings whereas the pies are the picture perfect club for homegrown players and never sign any past it players or those over 24 since at the very least when all time began.

It's the Wests Tigers players who vote on the player of the year. I'm guessing it translates into Ellis being a nice guy and being well liked at the club more than anything else. It's not as if he's made a significant Dally M challenge unlike his team mates Marshall and Farah have done in recent years. And he's no more of a stand out player at Wests Tigers than Chris Heighington is.

It'll be good to see him back in SL, but not in a Leeds shirt thank you.

Warrington, or even the Bulls maybe, and although he said before heading Down Under that he fancied finishing his career at Wakey, I doubt he'll fancy playing in what is a Championship level club nowadays.

And you would be a better judge of a player's quality than the players who play and train alongside him, including the aforementioned Marshall, Farah and Heighington?

Possibly not because I'm in no position to demand he gets the first shout in at the players bar!

Seriously though, Aussies and Kiwis like Poms, particularly those of an affable, sociable and good-humoured nature. Ellis fits into that category, as does Sam Burgess at Souths and he's won player of the year there too (good job it's nowt to do with match appearances). Keith Galloway was Wests Tigers best player last season by a country mile but he's never gonna be voted player of the year because he's ginger.

I do wonder from time to time how long your xmas card list is????

Probabley no need for a value bulk pack from asda.

in business speak most companies use "succession planning" when people move on or upwards people are there to replace them. gareth moved on in 2009

we won two grandfinals without him two challenge cup final apperances one world club championship. remember him for what he did and what a memory he gave us at 32 let us think about youth he is good but leave him grow old gracefully for a team who need him more and can share in the class player he is

we have sinny & jp as well as others we will have to replace in the next 3-5 years we dont want to add to this list

Would definitely have him back for 2 years or so, he still is of a higher quality than most superleague second rowers. People have become so fixated in playing youngsters they seem to forget about strengthening positions with high quality players as long as the average age of the team is down. See Menzies and Peacock, players can play longer than they used to.

No he's not.
I would quite like to see Ellis in a Leeds shirt again, but probably only due to nostalgia. As someone has previously mentioned, I'm usually wary of players returning to clubs they have previously played for. I would rather us develop our current crop.

Would have him back anytime but do not pay over the odds for him. Delaney is doing an excellent job in the second row thank you very much.

does the same mateyness extend to the Rugby League International Federation team of the year and Golden Boot nominations?