Wigan have a fecking enormous sulky chip on their shoulder since Super League started as they're not a big club anymore now they can't buy success, and patently jealous of our success.
I don't post on their forum anymore. Tetchy insular sanctimonious crybabies.

Only some of the, not fair to lump them all together.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Obsessed with Wigan. I wonder why that is? If you look here it may give you a BIG hint. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... page_id=53'" Wigan fan living in the past Thought you was different Rogues.....

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Obsessed with Wigan. I wonder why that is? If you look here it may give you a BIG hint. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... page_id=53'" Wigan fan living in the past Thought you was different Rogues.....

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Obsessed with Wigan. I wonder why that is? If you look here it may give you a BIG hint. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... page_id=53'" Why refuse to give a view on the topic is what I dont get though

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Obsessed with Wigan. I wonder why that is? If you look here it may give you a BIG hint. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... page_id=53'" Why refuse to give a view on the topic is what I dont get though

TBF Rogues is one of the better posters from Wigan, from what I see. It's also difficult to suggest that Wigan bought the trophies when we were just as bad but not as successful. During their successful spell, Wigan always had a good core of local lads and British players whereas I remember Leeds playing with 10/12 Aussies in their 15 man squad.

The post was about now though and not one Wigan poster wants to consider what Phil Clarke said.

I can understand that, I never really want to consider what Phil Clarke says. If he said that he appears to be getting into the sky mentality of Eddie and Stevo of saying something just to be controversial rather than a considered opinion.

I thought you'd read my post !

Sorry mate I did. I shouldn't have said not one. Apologies. But Im not obsessed with Wigan either just interested in the response to the idea.

I know, I think the topic should have stood on the Wigan board, whether losing big matches is starting to get into their heads is a worthwhile topic to discuss.
Personally I don't think it is, if you look at the number of players we've lost over the last few seasons and take into account the average age of the squad I think we've been punching above our weight for the past couple of years and we could be in for some silverware pretty soon.
We're definitely a centre short, oh to find another George Carmont from somewhere, but I think we'll be challenging next season if we can keep the squad healthy.

Think you can break down the losses into the three different competitions

WCC - they were never going to win in Aus, hardly a surprise and they gave the best account of SL teams in this years contest.
GF - probably would've strolled it in 2014 if not for Flower and this year was nip and tuck with Leeds riding high on emotion.
CC - two consecutive QF defeats at home against opposition you'd expect them to beat. Probably not a choke as such as more an underestimating of the opposition.

I agree that losing can be a habit but its not one Wigan have and I just cant understand why Clarke dreamt up that statement. I thought you looked very strong this year. I liked the three quarters and particularly your left side attack in the GF. Obviously Burgess will be a miss but Charnley is more than adequate.

Why did Clarke say it? Is it something Wigan fans have been whispering to themselves?

Wigan didn't reach the last eight of the Challenge Cup this year, the losing Quarter-Finalists were Hull, Leigh, Les Catalans and Widnes.

I'd also say the way they lost to Hull KR was both an underestimation of their opponents and a choke.

Wigan are not chokers they were just beaten by the better side on the day.

Nah, I'd not stick the chokers tag on em just yet. If, however, they contrived to lose a third successive grand final then that starts to look like Saints' territory all of a sudden.

Still think their's question marks over Saints despite their GF win last year. That was down to Flower's stupidity. Not made Wembley since 2008 either. Even though the last GF between us and them was 2011 we've since knocked them out in 2013 and 2015 playoffs and we've knocked them out of the last three meetings in the cup in 2010, '14 and '15. Their effort in this WCC was embarrassing. Would've been hard for anybody to be the Rabbitohs but pretty confident Leeds and Wigan would've given them a good game.

As for Wigan I think it might be more a case of Wane rather than them. I reckon Maguire would've landed a few more had he stayed. He landed the double in 2013 but had it unbelievably easy in the cup and were fortunate that Wire got Monaghan and Ratchford injured during the GF. They should've landed the 2014 GF but Wane has to take a serious amount of blame for why they didn't.

But as for chokers, still one team head and shoulders take that title.....step forward the Midgets of Huddersfield.

Remember when leeds used to seen as chockers. The nearly men. Bridesmaids.

Before 2004, if you'd been told ''so errr yeah, leeds are going to win 7 grand finals over the next 12 seasons, beating saints (at that point undefeated in GF's) 4 times in 5 years''

You'd have thought WTF? In my dreams. Before 2004 all this would have been a dream, now it's stone cold reality.

In the recent era, Leeds ability to come out on top in the decider in a tight nip and tuck game is uncanny. Only in 2007 was the game actually over going into the last 10 minutes, all the other grand finals were still up for grabs at that point. Crazy record when you look back over it all.

i love it how rogues tries to say that us rhinos fans are obsessed with wigan when he can't keep away from our forum and can't wait to stick his two penneth into how badly our academy system is performing,whilst praising the wigan academy each season as the best set of juniors that have ever walked the planet etc,but once someone confronts him with facts that show how poor his mighty wigan have done compared to us post the salary cap era that he never has any come backs to the facts
if he wants to be a bit of a wind up merchant ala ap or swiftcorn then he at least needs to back up his opinions with reasonable but clearly incorrect thoughts,or does rogues know only too well that he can't and that wigan are both ours and saints' bitches
over to you rogues,knock if you can't go

Wigan fans clearly see the Rhinos as their biggest rivals alongside their old arch enemies the Saints

The fact that posters like Rogues Gallery keep on bringing up their ancient past glories to both of our fans and on a regular basis too means that they have accepted being the 3rd biggest club in SL during the SL and salary capped era

The fact that posters like Rogues Gallery have no follow up's to their initial posts simply prove that they now no longer the biggest or definitely not best SL club and are at best 3rd

I do await the day Rogues and other Wigan fans brag about how they've won more Lancashire cups than Leeds.

Plus, they've always got the best flags.....that's as good as a Grand Final surely.

Have they overtaken Bradford? Not sure they can lay claim to be third just yet. Could be wrong though.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Obsessed with Wigan. I wonder why that is? If you look here it may give you a BIG hint. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... page_id=53'" Don't come on here with that, Rugby League only began in 1996. Or 2004 if you're a Leeds fan.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Obsessed with Wigan. I wonder why that is? If you look here it may give you a BIG hint. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... page_id=53'" Don't come on here with that, Rugby League only began in 1996. Or 2004 if you're a Leeds fan.

Salary cap hater Alert!

Oh it's a Pie. Of course.