Some people never learn G1.

i have to agree. i fully expected diskin to come back at loose as i don't think jjb had been off.

Sometimes you cannot coach beyond what the players are capable of - yes Tad is correct we did score tries from Kicks in the last GF - but that is the exception rather than the norm.

It was no better under Smith - who is an excellent technical coach - hence my first comment

I was under the impression that the fact the club wouldn't give McShane a dual registration loan deal gave the indication that he was considered a valuable member of the first team squad this season, Obviously with ridiculous amount of game time he was given by Brian McClennan on friday it's a kick in the face to the player and can only show a lack of confidence in the player for reasons we don't know as he hasn't been know to have a bad game in the Senior side and has been in very good form for the u20's.

His 10 minute spell in the sin bin (conceding 3 penalties in total) at Hull KR last season didn't help the team too much that night.

Fortunately it didn't ultimately prove decisive as Webster clearly knocked on over the try line and Bailey produced a match winning performance including 139 metres from 14 drives with 30 tackles before being knocked unconscious by Briscoe putting Watkins away for the winner.

True but the Sin-Binning was very unfortunate IIRC it was for Offside and he never got a prior warning from the Referee.

he might play Buderus even if he is not fit, cf last year's game at Wigan

....no but the clever role he played in one of our tries did help. That one not on your stats sheet?

Opta missed it, I didn't. It was almost identical to one they credited McShane with an assist for in the home game with the Crusaders two weeks previously and probably led to my taking a keen interest in what Opta termed a 'try assist' and how it appeared to vary from week to week.

The point from The Joker was that McShane 'hadn't been known to have a bad game for the senior side.' There are some who might classify an unneccesary sin-binning (Hull KR were not about to score) as being detrimental to having a good game. I might even be amongst them.

You can't blame the coach for all the injuries. I would question continually picking Delaney (or anyone else) if he's half fit. I suspect the choice of Coady and Clarkson on the wings would have been down to them being the most 'solid' outside backs we have at junior level given Bush was unavailable?

As for McShane, hopefully he'll only have this season to wait to get his chance behind Diskin.

Out of interest what relevance does that have, when the thread is about one match, not a season?

Just to clarify to ensure any knee jerking defensive feckw1ts have not got the wrong idea. The last sentence on the opening post.



Some people will never learn.

Is it?



So it's about time we started blaming the coach after one game then?

Knee jerking fekwittedness at its absolute maximum.







Yeak, OK. Whatever you say





You never learn do you.

Yes it is, hence the comment on one match and the choices for that one match.

I won't respond to the rest, you will just make yourself look stupid.

There's only one person looking stupid here and that's you. It doesnt take me to make you look stupiud either, you do a fine job yourself.

You said



By that I'd take it as based on the seasons performances it's now time to blame McClennan.

You argued against this, instead saying it's just based on this games selections and thus it's time to blame the coach based on his selections in this game (which at the possibility of being rude is a high level of fekwittery).

You then contradict yourself.




Based on the whole season or just on this game?



Ah right, so just this game then.



Confirmation. It is just this game you mean.



Hmmm. I'm not sure again now. You see if we're just basing it on this game then you're saying he needs to start doing his job based on this one game.

Are you criticising the coach based on just this game or the whole of the season?

Why didn't you just quote the post properly?



It's quite clear to read, and the full post even goes on to point out reasons from the one game.

Danny, you lose out everytime these days, just leave it and move on. The childish posting becomes tedious and boring for all.

If there is anybody else independent from the silly posters, who truley believes the opening post gives a view any different to commenting on the one match, then feel free to let me know.

Fine.

I think it's safe to assume you're blaming the coach based on his actions in [size=150ONE[/size match.

That's laughable.

I can understand you spouting the same old tedious line about it being tedious when you've made a fool of yourself yet again.

Why don't you do your usual and throw in the one about aliases and we can all go to sleep.

Not required. It doesn't matter which alias it is Danny, you still lose out with the pathetic trolling everytime these days.

I don't know if you have something on the mind, but you are pretty poor this last six months.

Oh dear.

Academy results mean nothing.

There is something not quite right you say...ok...yet we still keep producing quality players for our first team.

Would you be posting this if we had won?

Somehow I doubt it. When you have an injury ravaged team low on confidence....people are gonna play poorly.

I blame injuries, not the coach.

You're right on the first part.

Since Ryan Hall made the breakthrough into being a first team regular though, who has followed him?

The McGuire/Burrow/Sinfield/Diskin/JJB/Bailey crop was a freak, that's not going to happen more than once a generation - you do have to question who of the current academy setup is going to be next to make that transition though, and why if the production line is still churning out "quality players" Leeds feel the need to be picking up the likes of Coady, Pitts and Amor.

Your u18's got their season underway on Sunday:

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Luke burgess, kallum watkins and BJB. Burgess is a regular and BJB and watkins will become super league regulars within 2 years probably.

Alot of people because of that ''freak crop'' expect miracles but we are still producing quality at a reasonable rate.

Good point plus i'd expect to see Mcshane,Ambler and there are younger prospects in Hood,Bravo etc.

dont think the full un18s team played , but yes it was a pasteing 18-66 is some pasteing too !