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| Quote ="Trebor1"Newman is a massive loss, he won us the game v Wigan with sheer brilliance at key times and the team then got on a roll, we have nobody else in the team who has is game breaking ability and that tells you all you need to know about recent recruitment. A lot of the signings made by Smith have one eye on tomorrow but we're seriously lacking in the today.'"
Not completely true, McDonald has shown he can change a game, lots of tackle busts and numerous line breaks out of nothing
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"The team has no leadership on the field. Sinfield was respected by all his peers and when he led the team followed. There were plenty of times when things weren't going according to plan but they managed to turn things around - this team just crumbled.
It did help the golden generation that they had an inner belief they could beat anybody due to quality and belief available. This team has no cohesion and seemingly no respect for each other - they don't play as a team.'"
It wasnt just Sinfield, there was multiple leaders. This team has leaders in the group but none anywhere close enough to replicating the golden gen. The team has shown it has leaders when we are playing well, but struggles to show them when the team is falling behind.
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| Quote ="leedsbarmyarmy"Not completely true, McDonald has shown he can change a game, lots of tackle busts and numerous line breaks out of nothing'"
He's nowhere near Newman's class but yes he's probably one of the better backs we have, just not showed it much as yet
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"The team has no leadership on the field. Sinfield was respected by all his peers and when he led the team followed. There were plenty of times when things weren't going according to plan but they managed to turn things around - this team just crumbled.
It did help the golden generation that they had an inner belief they could beat anybody due to quality and belief available. This team has no cohesion and seemingly no respect for each other - they don't play as a team.'"
Absolutely correct, but we also Had JP, Mags, JJB, Burrow, Webb, Kylie L, lads who just knew how to lead and win games and were tough as hell. Game winners all across the park like Donald, Ali, Hall, Watkins, Zak... the list goes on..
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| Quote ="leedsbarmyarmy"It wasnt just Sinfield, there was multiple leaders. This team has leaders in the group but none anywhere close enough to replicating the golden gen. The team has shown it has leaders when we are playing well, but struggles to show them when the team is falling behind.'"
In any team/organisation there is always one person who has to take the final decision he is the ultimate leader - that was Sinfield. He decided and the other supported his decisions.
This team has no leader - they emerge when the going gets tough not when its all going great.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"He's nowhere near Newman's class but yes he's probably one of the better backs we have, just not showed it much as yet'"
Think you’re overrating Newman bit here. Clearly loads of potential, but just that currently. May become a great player one day. Needs to work on defence and have better luck with injuries.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Think you’re overrating Newman bit here. Clearly loads of potential, but just that currently. May become a great player one day. Needs to work on defence and have better luck with injuries.'"
Agree with this - the hype on here about Newman is misplaced IMO - has yet to show he has the mental capability to match his physical ability. His defence is miles away from what you would expect from a top player. Compare him to Chev at the same point in there development - Chev was on a different planet to Newman.
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| I think they are quite similar Chev and Newman, i think Newman has much more potential however. But i agree he has a fair bit to improve on, i am just saying he's much better than any of our other backs. I do rate Handley highly as a winger but not as a game breaker and for Nene the jury is out yet
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| Quote ="Trebor1"I think they are quite similar Chev and Newman, i think Newman has much more potential however. But i agree he has a fair bit to improve on, i am just saying he's much better than any of our other backs. I do rate Handley highly as a winger but not as a game breaker and for Nene the jury is out yet'"
Chev had a much better allround game - a much better pass and a significantly better defender. Newman has more raw power but hasn't got the subtlety Chev had.
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| The other centre was Kallum Watkins - he was never the same player when he didnt have BJB outside him. His pass when they played together was sublime.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"I think they are quite similar Chev and Newman, i think Newman has much more potential however. But i agree he has a fair bit to improve on, i am just saying he's much better than any of our other backs. I do rate Handley highly as a winger but not as a game breaker and for Nene the jury is out yet'"
I’m afraid imho Chev was a better player at 16 than Newman
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| Quote ="Shabino"I’m afraid imho Chev was a better player at 16 than Newman'"
Well Chev/Kallum was then, Harry is now. I just hope his body allows him to live up to his considerable potential.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"Well Chev/Kallum was then, Harry is now. I just hope his body allows him to live up to his considerable potential.'"
Yeah that’s fair. Think we all agree Harry has huge potential ton unlock, just needs his body to be a bit kinder to him now, and give him that chance. He is the great hope I guess, and a lot resting on his shoulders….
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| Both Walker and even more so Watkins could also pass. I can't see Newman getting close to his potential if he doesn't develop at least a rudimentary passing game. He can pass, but he never looks for it. I've never understood why young centres don't get taught that they are actually more dangerous when they run if there's the threat of setting up their winger to put defenders in two minds. Mind you, its not helped nowadays by wingers standing so flat that passing to them is often all but impossible.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Yeah that’s fair. Think we all agree Harry has huge potential ton unlock, just needs his body to be a bit kinder to him now, and give him that chance. He is the great hope I guess, and a lot resting on his shoulders….'"
Just need a couple a more with similar athleticism and pace. Maybe then he can focus on some of the subtleties of centre play that he currently isn't showing. He often looks, and probably feels, like is trying to make the difference on his own.
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| Quote ="Once were Loiners" I've never understood why young centres don't get taught that they are actually more dangerous when they run if there's the threat of setting up their winger to put defenders in two minds. .'"
They will get taught this, doesn't mean the player is going to apply it though.
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| I wouldn't look back too much at Walker and Watkins with rose-tinted specs. Both were physical freaks, and way ahead of their ages athletically, but Chev ended up having a bang-average career despite early promise, and Watkins was a mixed bag injury-wise for years. I also seem to remember most of his attempted flick passes ending in touch...
Newman is a strike player. He's not Greg Inglis, and he need better luck with injuries, but he has a good balance of natural ball-running talent and agression which make him exciting. Only time will tell whether he's another Stevie Ward or the next Keith Senior.
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| Chev ruined his career by going to union though, probs would have been different if he had stayed. Also don't forget his horrific leg break.
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| Quote ="leedsbarmyarmy"Chev ruined his career by going to union though, probs would have been different if he had stayed. Also don't forget his horrific leg break.'"
Agreed, and we might look back at Newman in a few years and say don't forget about his leg break and bad spell of injuries. Doesn't change the fact that Walker ended up being an SL journeyman.
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| Quote ="Shabino"I’m afraid imho Chev was a better player at 16 than Newman'"
Well that’s your opinion bud.
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| certainly not mine!
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Well that’s your opinion bud.'"
Isn’t it all opinions on here? Not saying Newman won’t end up better than them all, but a lot of variables involved in that. He needs some better players round him too…..
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| Quote ="Shabino"Isn’t it all opinions on here? Not saying Newman won’t end up better than them all, but a lot of variables involved in that. He needs some better players round him too…..'"
Hes got Olpherts what more do you want
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| newman has got the potential to be world class. wether he reaches that level time will tell.
chev, in my opinion, was very good but left to go to union before he reached the very top level
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| Quote ="Shabino"Isn’t it all opinions on here? Not saying Newman won’t end up better than them all, but a lot of variables involved in that. He needs some better players round him too…..'"
Yes that’s why I said it. You’ve misinterpreted what I was saying bud.
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