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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"And nothing.
Its a self-contained argument backed up by facts and evidence. Has that confused you?'"
It's a very nicely put together history lesson , but history is in the past , you make your own future
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"It's a very nicely put together history lesson , but history is in the past , you make your own future'"
And history is filled with the failings of fools who are certain they were the exception, and not the rule. They werent.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"im not boosting anything by Including Leeds, Wigan and Saints. It would be ThePrinter level of nonsense for me to count the trophies won by a big 4 of Leeds, Wigan, Saints, and Wire, that didnt include Wigan, leeds and Saints.
Simon Moran has been part of Warrington for a fair old time now, the majority of the pro-era, it makes no sense to take out just because it suits you. Its like about 10% of the entire games existence you are removing for no discernible reason.'"
No, Him made a relevant point about Warrington and the investment they've made over the last decade to get up to the likes of Leeds, Saints and Wigan and you tried to make out as if Warrington had been at their level throughout the games history by coming up with stuff such as those 4 teams have won 16 of the 20 GF's played when we know Wire haven't won any of them and nearly half of their 8 Challenge Cups came after they had Moran's money.
Moran became owner of Warrington in 2003. How many of the 2 big trophies did they win in the previous 50 years and what years were they?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"And history is filled with the failings of fools who are certain they were the exception, and not the rule. They werent.'"
We might be the exception , most likely we won't be , but that's the beauty of sport , nobody knows , even you
And if we're not , why do you even care ? , go on , tell us we're stopping somebody else from being the exception , some mythical club that our existence is holding back ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"And history is filled with the failings of fools who are certain they were the exception, and not the rule. They werent.'"
Well, us little folk had better give up then. Thanks for the heads-up smokey.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"No, Him made a relevant point about Warrington and the investment they've made over the last decade to get up to the likes of Leeds, Saints and Wigan and you tried to make out as if Warrington had been at their level throughout the games history by coming up with stuff such as those 4 teams have won 16 of the 20 GF's played when we know Wire haven't won any of them and nearly half of their 8 Challenge Cups came after they had Moran's money.
Moran became owner of Warrington in 2003. How many of the 2 big trophies did they win in the previous 50 years and what years were they?'"
Don't you start pointing out facts , you know that isn't allowed ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"And history is filled with the failings of fools who are certain they were the exception, and not the rule. They werent.'"
Until the rule changes.Take the norm away and there are no exceptions,no safeguards.You have yet to experience that.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"No, Him made a relevant point about Warrington and the investment they've made over the last decade to get up to the likes of Leeds, Saints and Wigan and you tried to make out as if Warrington had been at their level throughout the games history by coming up with stuff such as those 4 teams have won 16 of the 20 GF's played when we know Wire haven't won any of them and nearly half of their 8 Challenge Cups came after they had Moran's money.
Moran became owner of Warrington in 2003. How many of the 2 big trophies did they win in the previous 50 years and what years were they?'"
No, my point was that what Warrington had to do when Moran took them over to make that jump, in as so much as it existed at all, was far far far less than pretty much any other club had to.
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| Quote ="atomic"Until the rule changes.Take the norm away and there are no exceptions,no safeguards.You have yet to experience that.'"
This doesnt make sense as a sentence never mind an argument.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"This doesnt make sense as a sentence never mind an argument.'"
Now you know how the rest of us feel trying to decipher your garbled rubbish ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"We might be the exception , most likely we won't be , but that's the beauty of sport , nobody knows , even you
And if we're not , why do you even care ? , go on , tell us we're stopping somebody else from being the exception , some mythical club that our existence is holding back
'" There is no reason for it to be necessary that to be the exception. There is no reason that this structure we have (in all senses of the word) has to be that way. It isnt the beauty of sport, the beauty of sport would be if there was a realistic chance of the next couple of years Leigh packing out houses and being successful. Like the NRL where as of this year every club bar the new Gold Coast club will have appeared in a GF.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Now you know how the rest of us feel trying to decipher your garbled rubbish
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Great wit! You put a laughing face on it so we know it was funny.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Now you know how the rest of us feel trying to decipher your garbled rubbish
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Very true... ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"There is no reason for it to be necessary that to be the exception. There is no reason that this structure we have (in all senses of the word) has to be that way. It isnt the beauty of sport, the beauty of sport would be if there was a realistic chance of the next couple of years Leigh packing out houses and being successful. Like the NRL where as of this year every club bar the new Gold Coast club will have appeared in a GF.'"
Do you want to re post this in English ?
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Do you want to re post this in English ?'" I dont think it is possible for me to simplify it any further for you.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I dont think it is possible for me to simplify it any further for you.'"
" There is no reason for it to be necessary that to be the exception "
Brilliant , just what are you suggesting this means ?
Can anybody explain this to me ?
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"" There is no reason for it to be necessary that to be the exception "
Brilliant , just what are you suggesting this means ?
Can anybody explain this to me ?'"
There is no reason for it it to be necessary for that to be the exception (the exception as previously stated being smaller clubs success)
This is the point in Starbugs postings where he either lies or pretends to be stupid. (there is no exception to this rule)
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"There is no reason for it to be necessary that to be the exception. There is no reason that this structure we have (in all senses of the word) has to be that way. It isnt the beauty of sport, the beauty of sport would be if there was a realistic chance of the next couple of years Leigh packing out houses and being successful. Like the NRL where as of this year every club bar the new Gold Coast club will have appeared in a GF.'"
So the top four pack their houses out and forget whats below them.You have had a wake up call in reality this season,one you haven't seen for many a year and now you compare the system to NRL.You really could have done with a feeder club this season.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"There is no reason for it it to be necessary for that to be the exception (the exception as previously stated being smaller clubs success)
This is the point in Starbugs postings where he either lies or pretends to be stupid. (there is no exception to this rule)'"
Ah , " for that to be the exception "
You missed out the " For "
Right I'll read it again now
Back in a mo
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| Quote ="atomic"So the top four pack their houses out and forget whats below them.You have had a wake up call in reality this season,one you haven't seen for many a year and now you compare the system to NRL.You really could have done with a feeder club this season.'"
If you could get past the little club syndrome you would see im actually suggesting the opposite. That it is a problem that the big 4 monopolise success. Even if some people pretend they dont.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"There is no reason for it to be necessary FOR that to be the exception. There is no reason that this structure we have (in all senses of the word) has to be that way.'"
Nope sorry even with the missing ' for ' , this just doesn't make sense
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Nope sorry even with the missing ' for ' , this just doesn't make sense'"
tell me what you are struggling with and ill see if I can dumb it down any further for you.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"If you could get past the little club syndrome you would see im actually suggesting the opposite. That it is a problem that the big 4 monopolise success. Even if some people pretend they dont.'"
This I understand , but you don't suggest a solution
Oh and this ' little club syndrome ' ? , go on give us a clue
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"tell me what you are struggling with and ill see if I can dumb it down any further for you.'"
Away you go , not a clue what you are attempting to say , no doubt like everybody else , but they are pretending they understand , you've heard of ' The Empoers New Clothes ' I assume
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"This I understand , but you don't suggest a solution '" The solution is obvious. You dont like the solution though.
Quote Oh and this ' little club syndrome ' ? , go on give us a clue'" the chip on the shoulder carried certain fans of smaller clubs.
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