I didn't even realise until I read it in the YEP report that the club had these additional sites out at Tingley and Weetwood. Are they just empty fields at the moment?

The clubs that complain that they've lost atmosphere have occurred when they've moved grounds entirely to the middle of nowhere out of the way.

This still keeps us at Headingley and they are several big football teams such as Liverpool (The Kop), Everton, Newcastle (even though their team gives them little to cheer about) that have had to upgrade and change their stadiums especially after the events of Hillsborough and still keep their atmospheres and identities.

The only problem I have is that is that it makes the Western Terrace look even more ridicolusly out of sync and out of date with the rest of the ground, a real eye sore.

What is our 'OFFICAL' capacity at the moment as it seems to depend on what health and safety deem acceptable ever since they condemned the South Stand several years ago.

Quote ="Andy Gilder"I didn't even realise until I read it in the YEP report that the club had these additional sites out at Tingley and Weetwood. Are they just empty fields at the moment?'" Yes. www.hwt-leeds.co.uk/

Quote ="Andy Gilder"I didn't even realise until I read it in the YEP report that the club had these additional sites out at Tingley and Weetwood. Are they just empty fields at the moment?'" Yes. www.hwt-leeds.co.uk/

Quote ="Old Feller"Yes. www.hwt-leeds.co.uk/'" I always thought the south stand capacity was 10,000? that new proposal on there says it will be 7,721. Sure that must be significantly down on current?

Quote ="Old Feller"Yes. www.hwt-leeds.co.uk/'" I always thought the south stand capacity was 10,000? that new proposal on there says it will be 7,721. Sure that must be significantly down on current?

Meh. Looks like they got a crack team of multi-storey car park architects into design the whole thing.

I think its just over 20K

Great looking stand but what about the away fans? no Roof?

& I can see ticket prices sky rocket to pay for this in the future?

Did prices at your new stadium or Warrington's rocket?
If not why should ours?

its been stated time and again when away fans come here and moan that the western terrace away end will always remain the way it is with no roof as there is no scope to redevelopment due to the houses directly behind.Nothing the club can do about it.

I think the designs look fantastic, and the stadium will look fantastic when finished, I for one like the idea of some seats in the south stand, the sour stand has a great atmosphere but unless you are smack in the middle 3rd it's not the best view, I will be looking at upgrading to south stand seats.

The other side is that we will gave more chance for international matches league and union.

Of course the final peace will be the western terrace but untill those houses are gone/ bought that will be a while off. Of course when we have the space no reason why corners and increase in capacity overall can be achieved.

When the weather is good and the place is full the western terrace is still fine. There are worst places in the league, castleford railway end, craven park, and odsal full stop.

You forgot to include Belle Vue or whatever it's called now.
There are still plenty of uncovered areas at the Catalan's ground, but the cover there is mainly needed to keep off the sun.

Even if the club could, I really don't see where the commercial return would be for them.

Unless they could demonstrate that an excessive number of '1-2 time a year customers' were actively put off from visiting Headingley, there isn't any justification for doing it.

And given that we're a predominantly summer sport and given that Warrington have already sold 7 coaches for Thursday's game, I don't think that's the case.

Per the 2011 planning application for the new South Stand at that time, capacity broke down as:

North Stand: 5,176 seats (inc paddock)
South Stand: 6,000 standing (reduced from 8,000 due to the HSE inspection, might have gone back up now after the remedial work)
Carnegie Stand: 2,500 standing, 1,851 seats
Western Terrace: 5,000 standing

So 13,500 standing and just over 7,000 seats at that point in time.

The new North Stand has 3,800 seats and there will be an additional 2,200 in the new South Stand, giving 7,850 seats in total

There will be space for 5,500 standing in the new South Stand, meaning 13,000 standing spaces in the ground overall and a total capacity of roughly 20,850. How often have Leeds even come close to challenging that figure in recent seasons?

I've been in headingley late 80's and early 90's when 26k (Widnes I think) Bulls/northern 24k

Unfortunately health and safety post hillsborough will simply not allow those over crowded terrace any more. Unless/untill we can redevelep the western terrace the ground will be stuck at around 21k but with more and more scaceious comphy seats and more and better corperate hospitality.

I thought it was 8,000?
IIRC it was 10,000 but several years ago it was reduced due to the safety concerns with the stand.
I may be wrong about that though, it's just a vague recollection.

I wonder if it would be worth exploring a removeable shelter for the Away Fans? Or something with a Transparent Roof?

I'm sure there will be lots more info coming out about what will be inside the South stand .I wonder if the idea of a museum will be resurrected .Phil Holmes has just posted on FB that the foundation has donated 5k to Johns statue and he said an announcement is imminent

I understand the sentiment behind wishing to see a museum in the south stand but it would get much better exposure in my view if was to be located in the new joint stand, preferably co-located with the cricket museum.
The shared nature of the ground is what makes it really special.
By all means have an honours wall included in the new South Stand & any statue(s) should be placed on this side of the ground too.

Nice one

Closest to the 20k mark in recent seasons was the 19,997 vs Saints in 2009 but that was the penultimate game of the season with both level on points with the winner almost certain to win the LLS.

Last year we got 18.3k vs Wigan and 18.5k vs Saints. Will be interesting to if we can break the 19k mark and push towards 20k this year for those games as surely we've sold more season tickets this year than last year considering the varying feel good factor now compared to 12 months ago and e entertaining rugby we're playing, could hinge on the form for both teams going into those games though.

A new ALL STANDING South Stand will do just fine. PLEASE, no seats in this stand. Whatever the North Standers might say, this is the heartbeat of the support on match days.

Arsenal's Emirates Stadium has murals around it of a couple of dozen of their most famous players. Instead of having a blank white exterior to the new South Stand why not put up a mural on the outside of certain players/images (Hall's fist pump as he wins the LLS, McGuire diving over in the '04 GF for example).

The have up some temporary Treble winners banners featuring Sinfield, Peacock and Leuluai so why not something more permanent along those lines. Would certainly add more colour and character to the ground rather than have some bland beige exterior such as the East Stand at Elland Road.

I'm amazed that people still think all-seater stadia don't generate atmosphere, given they are very much the rule rather than the exception these days.