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| Quote ="SFW"I'm assuming your talking about the Chris Bailey try here so ignore it if I'm not.
It's pretty much all Watkins' fault IMO. Buderus has to try and contain the man and the ball on his own 3 yards from the line, a difficult task which he did for long enough to allow either his inside or outside defender the time to get to the tackle and help complete it. Instead, Watkins rushes out at the gap between Bailey and Burnett anticipating the offload/intercept (a terrible defensive play when they were 4 on 4 down that channel) and Sinfield (who's sliding across) tries to compensate by getting to the other side of the tackle as Bailey has gone for Buderus' outside shoulder due to the huge gap left by Watkins.
Buderus can do better there by all means, but he's also entitled to a bit of help and he got none.'"
That's a spot on analysis that. I actually blamed Sinfield for it at first, and I still think he is part at fault, and Buderus is not blameless. But Buderus is not at total fault for that try.
Unless running at pace more often that not players tackling the upper body (which is what Buderus did here), dont get a player down without the second man going to the lower body. In this case there was no second man, despite Buderus holding the man up for a number of seconds.
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| Matt Diskin will be relieved that it's now the turn of Watkins, Sinfield and others to be blamed for Buderus failings.
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| Quote ="G1"Matt Diskin will be relieved that it's now the turn of Watkins, Sinfield and others to be blamed for Buderus failings.'"
"Light the red paper at arms length then retire to a safe distance.
If the thread fails to go off then repeat the above procedure."
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| Quote ="G1"I can imagine the level of reaction being similar had Diskin come up with an "effort" like that. No, really.'"
Like his effort on Grix last Sunday at the Galpharm perhaps?
It appears to have passed by with complete indifference on here.
Until now.
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| This obsession with previous players is not healthy. It simply leads to frustration and negative posts. And bores the tits off everybody else.
So far we've had Donald, then last season Disko, this season' s manly crush appeared to be Sinny, and I suspect it will be a close run thing between BJB and Watkins for next seasons warm seal of approval.
Surely there is someone sensational and inventive in the current squad that an excitable chap could hitch his wagon to?
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| Quote ="tvoc"
It appears to have passed by with complete indifference on here.
Until now.'"
Perhaps because he's not playing for us any more?
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| Quick question...
Do the guys that have been here years (G1, tvoc, McF, Billy, Fat Boy & many more), not get sick of having the same discussions time and time and time and TIME AND TIME again?!
I've only been here since October and I'm already beyond bored discussing Diskin vs. Buderus.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Quick question...
Do the guys that have been here years (G1, tvoc, McF, Billy, Fat Boy & many more), not get sick of having the same discussions time and time and time and TIME AND TIME again?!
I've only been here since October and I'm already beyond bored discussing Diskin vs. Buderus.'"
Bring back Willie Talau I say.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Bring back Willie Talau I say.'"
Oh
Chris Joints voluntary tackle?
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Quick question...
Do the guys that have been here years (G1, tvoc, McF, Billy, Fat Boy & many more), not get sick of having the same discussions time and time and time and TIME AND TIME again?!
I've only been here since October and I'm already beyond bored discussing Diskin vs. Buderus.'"
Some issues just never go away. We've had the debate over the relative merits of Smith vs McClennan ad infinitum, not to mention whether or not Peacock was signed as a 'bona fide' prop (this one at least has been resolved), and whether Sinfield is better than McGuire etc etc
Certain posters have a tendency to become entrenched in their views/agendas and the resulting 'fog knitting' (to quote one of the main culprits) sometimes provides entertainment but is also one reasons why I've spent more time posting on the Bulls board of late (where there are fewer egos and cliques). Things have improved since Swiftcorn/AP has returned - always enjoyed his posts on RLFans, in particular his efforts on the Saints board, not to mention his habit of dredging up old threads...
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Some issues just never go away. We've had the debate over the relative merits of Smith vs McClennan ad infinitum, not to mention whether or not Peacock was signed as a 'bona fide' prop (this one at least has been resolved), and whether Sinfield is better than McGuire etc etc
Certain posters have a tendency to become entrenched in their views/agendas and the resulting 'fog knitting' (to quote one of the main culprits) sometimes provides entertainment but is also one reasons why I've spent more time posting on the Bulls board of late (where there are fewer egos and cliques). Things have improved since Swiftcorn/AP has returned - always enjoyed his posts on RLFans, in particular his efforts on the Saints board, not to mention his habit of dredging up old threads...'"
I suppose old habits die hard.
I love Swiftcorn. Proper makes me laugh! As do the responses from the people who take him seriously (which was me at first!). This place would be a lot duller without him.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Oh
Chris Joints voluntary tackle?'"
This board is not deserving of JVT.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Quick question...'"
Quick sarcastic answer from me. I love it .... where were you earlier in the week.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Quick sarcastic answer from me. I love it .... where were you earlier in the week.'"
Did you tire of yourself dredging this one up?
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Quick question...
Do the guys that have been here years (G1, tvoc, McF, Billy, Fat Boy & many more), not get sick of having the same discussions time and time and time and TIME AND TIME again?!
I've only been here since October and I'm already beyond bored discussing Diskin vs. Buderus.'"
Well this is a rugby league forum. We have the same games against the same teams every season along with pretty much the same personnel. Repetitiveness is just something that happens and won’t be halted anytime soon.
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| Quote ="tvoc"where were you earlier in the week.'"
Had a bit of a traumatic incident. Which if you're interested I'll pm you about, and if you're not we'll just leave as ambiguous! Why... what did I miss?
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"I suppose old habits die hard.
I love Swiftcorn. Proper makes me laugh! As do the responses from the people who take him seriously (which was me at first!). This place would be a lot duller without him.'"
You obviously never read anything by the now infamous 'Loinerforlife' then................
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| Quote ="G1"Did you tire of yourself dredging this one up?'"
Yes I did a little but as it was still on page one of my 'view your posts' threads list I thought you at least might appreciate the opportunity to discuss Matt Diskin's attempted tackle on Scott Grix (not that he was alone in the appalling team effort to prevent the try being conceded.)
Should I not bother in future?
Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Had a bit of a traumatic incident. Which if you're interested I'll pm you about, and if you're not we'll just leave as ambiguous!
Why... what did I miss?'"
Thanks for the offer but that won't be neccessary.
What did you miss? Nothing, absolutely nothing or at least nothing new.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Yes I did a little but as it was still on page one of my 'view your posts' threads list I thought you at least might appreciate the opportunity to discuss Matt Diskin's attempted tackle on Scott Grix (not that he was alone in the appalling team effort to prevent the try being conceded.)
Should I not bother in future?
'" Knock yourself out.
I don't deny Matt Diskin missed and misses tackles. The point I was making is the reaction to those misses would be massively different if it were Matt or Buderus making, sorry, missing them in the blue and amber.
So I am not sure where you took the discussion. Having bemoaned well worn discussions being rehashed earlier in the week you've just been a bit hypocritical.
I don't mind. These discussions and debates are simply a work diversion for me. If anyone thinks anything on here is original they are deluded.
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| Quote ="G1" The point I was making is the reaction to those misses would be massively different if it were Matt or Buderus making, sorry, missing them in the blue and amber.'"
Interesting and somewhat revealing that you phrase it like that. Matt (although officially it appears to be Matthew don't you know) or Danny alternatively Diskin or Buderus surely there boss?
Quote ="G1" So I am not sure where you took the discussion. Having bemoaned well worn discussions being rehashed earlier in the week you've just been a bit hypocritical.'"
Or highlighted their current relevance perhaps?
Quote ="G1" I don't mind. These discussions and debates are simply a work diversion for me. If anyone thinks anything on here is original they are deluded.'"
If Rob Burrow plays on Saturday it will be his 300th 1st grade appearance for Leeds. There you go, not a lot of people know that. Shouldn't be long before you find a way to work it into a discussion about wee Robbie.
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| Oh goodie...another Buderus versus Diskin debate.
Is it possible to have any more fun with a pair of hookers ?
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| next weekend against Wakefield? tempting fate abit here.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Oh goodie...another Buderus versus Diskin debate.
Is it possible to have any more fun with a pair of hookers ?'"
I liked that!
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| Restricting Wakefield to one try was a good effort, albeit against a poor side.
A change of emphasis from Brian Mac after the Saints game, or preparation for the game against Wigan? Either way, more please!
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"...A change of emphasis from Brian Mac after the Saints game ...'"
Not so much a change of emphasis, I think, more that Bailey and Leuluai are now back, so second-rowers are not having to play in the front row and the consequent musical chairs of players playing out of position that we had in the early games is now (almost) back to normal.
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