Smith, Oledski, Handley, newman?

Over 5 plus years that's not good

As DHM said, a club our size should have one or two juniors every year knocking hard on the door for first team - if Leeds can't then SL is literally doomed. Smith and Oledzki coming through this year is what should be happening every season. It hasn't, and we've got too many players like Handley, Golding and Sutcliffe who have been around for quite a while and played a lot of games but who ought to have been bypassed or at least pressured for a spot by quality juniors.

Walker, Smith and Oledzki suggest the conveyor belt has got moving again, but we're seeing the effect of not having enough quality home produced players over a long period as we have so few at the supposed peak of their careers (Ward? Singleton?).

Exactly. Cam we really name 6 players to have come through on 3 to 5 year's ago that are still here. I'll start with Golding.

2013. No Paul Mcshane. No Liam hood. No Mulhern. No Ben jb.

No Alex Foster

To be fair though there are always players who will take time to mature and only at that stage do we find out how good they'll be. A decision needs to be made at some point, otherwise you'd end up having peripheral potential players all over the shop. The decisions won't always be right but someone has to make them.

Many of the players people are naming would, if they'd have stayed, been bracketed over the intervening years when we were waiting for them to come good as one of those wasting salary cap and blocking the progress of youngsters.

Besides walker golding and both handley and lilley to some extent. We have had no big breakthroughs in 5 years now. Singleton took a bit if time to keep a 1st team selection too

Give Oledski the number 8 shirt + give Smith the number 13. Play them. Give them the platform to develop their talents.

CREATE OUR OWN STARS

There is one way of finding whether they are good enough - play them

At least they will fight for a place in the team

This week's predictions
Salford to beat Toronto
Widnes to lose against Leeds
London to beat Toulouse
HKR to beat halifax

Anyone disagree with these this week

Agree with 3 - think Tolouse will beat London

possibly the London game. that will be tight

Watching Toronto finish so strongly against Salford has me scared given how poor we've been finishing games.

Weren't Salford down to 12 men when Toronto made their comeback ? But yes leeds last 20 minutes scare me

Hastings just sent off for Salford, must be banned after nearly taking O‘Brien’s head off. He and Luke Burgess will be banned for next week.

If we beat Widnes...

The Salford game just got easier

What an idiot hastings was there, think that’ll be him for the season, he’s done us a right favour there!

Jackson Hastings, Luke Burgess and Lami Tasi could all potentially be banned for our match against Salford next week. A win against Widnes today, Salford and then Halifax will secure our place in Super League.

Agreed. 3 wins and we are safe. Now Toronto dropped points against Salford.
2 wins and it's down to points different for 3th and 4th.
1 win and it's MPG.

So halifax and Widnes are must wins now.

All 3 are must win games if we are to guarantee our Super League place before the final game of the season.

I think Hastings being out will tip the balance in favour of Leeds next week.

You would hope so, considering him been in is what has tipped the balance in Salford’s favour for last few weeks.

Gutted he was out for our game, probably wouldn’t have won but points difference would have been far less, Hastings makes them tick.