Not too sure about that. Full pre season. New players. Look clueless. I want it to go well, and not too bothered about the results but 2 more performances like that and we have to look for a new coach. This is dire. No better than McDermott or Agar.

Absolute nonsense .

Smith was brought in as a long term coach sacking him after 4 games this season would be ridiculous and wed be back to square one.

Some people have ridiculously short memories.

Nor should he be, short term thinking got us into the mess in the last few years

Completely ridiculous to suggest he should be sacked.
Some people watch too much football....

If Leeds sacked Smith after 4 games this year id seriously consider not bothering going again this year, id have no respect for the club

Worth bearing in mind Smith is finding his way as a head coach as well.
He will be making mistakes. For mine we need to stick with him and let him get on with it. When push comes to shove this year, there’s probably 11 teams playing to come second in the GF.

Not gonna happen this year. Don’t worry. Just hyperbole from people who don’t understand the game or process of elite sport….

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Radders the dadders and his Brexit rugby league style is the first in the bin.

He's off to the NRL, apparently.

He can join others failing upwards in McDermott and Agar then....

It feels like there must be something more than just results. While some will say its way too early we've also seen what can happen if you leave a mess too long.

I have to say issues seem to follow Widdopp around wherever he goes....

Cas were dreadful on Friday night. It was typical Radford, a plodding forward coached team. His Hull coached team were the same, but they had the remnants of a quality squad with the individual brilliance to pull off big game victories with un-planned moments of flare. Without Mamo, & with McShane off after a few minutes, Cas had nothing but Miller running round in desperation. Hopefully Last won't won't last.
Widdop was crap but I don't blame him for the overall performance.

Was hopping we went there in 2 weeks and put the nail in the coffin. Awful coach was always odd choice for Cas or anyone to be fair.

How long do we think Applegarth has left at Wakey?

I'm sure I remember reading (or hearing) that he was implementing a new attack strategy in and claimed it may take a 'week or two' to get used to. I can't find anything about it now, and starting to think I've imagined it. Anyone know more?

The Cods aren't happy with Tony Smith, a few more performances like the the last couple and no doubt the pressure will really start to build

They would be absolutely bonkers to get rid of Uncle Tony. (although would totally be a very FC thing to do tbh)

Hes going to need at least a season or two to get rid of some of the dead wood there and truly implement his methods onto that team.

Applegarth is a strange one, have the players just not bought in to these new methods? They didnt look like they had a clue against us for large swathes of that game Friday. There was a real feelgood factor around the club preseason, new stand, players coach etc but thats all gone in the bin recently as reality has arrived.

we're more than happy with Tony Smith and understand that he has a monster job on his hands sorting out the rubbish that was left for him. We have no expectations of anything good for this season but are confident that time will show that we made the right decision in appointing him.

Looks like Leigh getting promoted is turning out to be good timing this time around.

The problem is you’ve got him at wrong stage of his career for a complete rebuild and long term plan. His nephew Woolf have been better !

have a wonder over onto RedVee, and you'll see the 1st coach to be sacked
they really do have amazingly short memories some of their fans. 4 weeks ago won WCC, and then they want him gone, and not just one or two

i'm not saying i want a Saints coach to do well, but to call him out after a handful of games is ridiculous, 2 in Oz, and the disrupted return trip. We all know that WCC takes it out of the team, and add in the travelling to and from Oz, there is always going to be a bit of a knock on effect. They'll be there or there abouts come the end of the season, and will think they can win it from perhaps 4th or 5th

It was one poster who got shot down by everyone else lmao.

But don’t let that get in the way of your lies lmao

You don't sound like you're laughing. Salty yes, laughing no.

you must have some seriously big blinkers on to try and deflect / ignore the morons who follow Saints calling for his head

i have mates who are Saints fans who have been calling for his head on facebook, twitter etc

some seriously short memories about what you have achieved over the last 4 seasons and most recently the WCC