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| Quote ="PONNER"So far this season.
B.Hodgson missed 3
B.Drew missed all 7
J.Lolesi missed 2
P.Whatuira missed 4
K.Mason missed 6
D.Fa'alogo injured last week
S.Wild missed 5
S.Finnigan missed all 7
D.Kirmond missed all 7 now gone to Wakey
M.Aspinwall missed 3
M.Lawrence missed 1
S.Grix missed 1
L.Patrick missed 1
G.Horne missed 2
Not heard us mention our injury list. 14 1st teamers missed at least 1 game so far this season.'"
Although i suspect that list is misrepresentative (you've only had 4 out for a sustained period), when you're in form injuries don't make as big a difference. Leeds have started the season in poor form, WCC and injuries have compounded that.
I don't get why you feel the need to come on here and boast about how many injured, on a leeds forum in a thread started by a warrington fan.
This is about leeds, f*ck off.
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| Quote ="PONNER"Lucky for 3 years without having a quite a few injuries at the same time helped you win the GF 3 times. Now you've not had the same amount of luck this season and see where you are. Only now are you going through what most teams have faced over the last few years. Stop moaning and get on with it
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You don't seriously believe that though do you?.....or do you?
You're going to look like a d*ck at the end of the season, really.
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| Quote ="PONNER"
I can just about remember when we used to hang around outside the top 8. We were pants then too
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But now...things have changed! the power has shifted and you're going to let us know about it.
You're good now...but...wait a minute, what have you won recently?
Oh....yeah F*CK ALL!
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| Quote ="back to back to back"But now...things have changed! the power has shifted and you're going to let us know about it.
You're good now...but...wait a minute, what have you won recently?
Oh....yeah F*CK ALL!'"
Come on, its only been 48 years since they last won the title. They have a right to mix it with Leeds, Saints and Bradford. They have earned that right.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca"Stat (i'm sure tvoc will correct me if incorrect) but last season Leeds used 27 players. This season (excluding last night) Leeds have used 27 already.'"
Correct when you include rather than exclude the Wigan game. Luke Ambler being the =#FF000027th player used so far.
When you look at the 2009 season (at this same stage after Rd 8 and the WCC fixture) Leeds had used 22.
And now for the interesting bit - the comparison with the other SL clubs in 2010:
Bradford - =#0000BF20
Castleford - =#FF000026
Les Catalans - =#FF000025
Crusaders - =#40000023
Harlequins - =#80000024
Huddersfield - =#80000022
Hull - =#80000023
Hull KR - =#80000022
Leeds - =#FF000027
Salford - =#80000022
St Helens - =#80000023
Wakefield - =#FF000025
Warrington - =#0000BF20
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| thos is amazing. i can understand bulls fans saints fans, even wigan fans at a push having a gloat as they have actually won something, but shudds fans
top 8 club pmsl
what a set of clowns, come back and have a pop when you actually turn up and play in a final, instead of having your s drop out, better still when you actually win something.
which will be a long time
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| the real reason your languishing in the lower half of the division is simply because of the amount of effort you put into the world cup which as fek'ed you up. the aussies murdered you more than anybody thought and the resulting injuries and lack of form stem from that game.
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| As much as I am enjoying the Rhinos' predicament this year, and I am sure you will allow that much, I am astounded at the current Huddersfield "new force in rugby league" view of things. Everyone who knows anything about the game knows that if the Leeds form picks up at the back end of the season they could win the thing from anywhere in the top 8. They have the stars and the class to do it (gags and chokes on his food for a moment). Huddersfield have one decent season and a promising start and suddenly they are the next big thing. Get over yourselves.
If the silverware gets anywhere close to the Galpharm, I'll concede it, but Huddersfield are just doing what other clubs do in cycles: get somewhere near the top 2. After all, someone has got to finish third. Except this year, Huddersfield could well end up outside the top four as Saints pick up in the warmer weather and Leeds discover their form. So a worse finish than last year and still Yorkshire's new cream? Give me a break.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Correct when you include rather than exclude the Wigan game. Luke Ambler being the =#FF000027th player used so far.
When you look at the 2009 season (at this same stage after Rd 8 and the WCC fixture) Leeds had used 22.
And now for the interesting bit - the comparison with the other SL clubs in 2010:
Bradford - =#0000BF20
Castleford - =#FF000026
Les Catalans - =#FF000025
Crusaders - =#40000023
Harlequins - =#80000024
Huddersfield - =#80000022
Hull - =#80000023
Hull KR - =#80000022
Leeds - =#FF000027
Salford - =#80000022
St Helens - =#80000023
Wakefield - =#FF000025
Warrington - =#0000BF20
Wigan - =#80000022'"
Wonder what Mr Ponner's excuse will be for these clear stats?
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| Quote ="handrags"the real reason your languishing in the lower half of the division is simply because of the amount of effort you put into the world cup which as fek'ed you up. the aussies murdered you more than anybody thought and the resulting injuries and lack of form stem from that game.'"
As far as I cam remember only Sinfield was injured in the WCC
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| Quote ="tvoc"Correct when you include rather than exclude the Wigan game. Luke Ambler being the =#FF000027th player used so far.
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I was nearly right
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"As much as I am enjoying the Rhinos' predicament this year, and I am sure you will allow that much, I am astounded at the current Huddersfield "new force in rugby league" view of things. Everyone who knows anything about the game knows that if the Leeds form picks up at the back end of the season they could win the thing from anywhere in the top 8. They have the stars and the class to do it (gags and chokes on his food for a moment). Huddersfield have one decent season and a promising start and suddenly they are the next big thing. Get over yourselves.
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I know, it's laughable.
And they'll look even bigger idiots by october.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Correct when you include rather than exclude the Wigan game. Luke Ambler being the =#FF000027th player used so far.
When you look at the 2009 season (at this same stage after Rd 8 and the WCC fixture) Leeds had used 22.
And now for the interesting bit - the comparison with the other SL clubs in 2010:
Bradford - =#0000BF20
Castleford - =#FF000026
Les Catalans - =#FF000025
Crusaders - =#40000023
Harlequins - =#80000024
Huddersfield - =#80000022
Hull - =#80000023
Hull KR - =#80000022
Leeds - =#FF000027
Salford - =#80000022
St Helens - =#80000023
Wakefield - =#FF000025
Warrington - =#0000BF20
Wigan - =#80000022'"
so....basically, the teams that have used the least amount of players (pretty settled 17) aree the ones generally near the top. Hudds 22.
As soon as we get bodies back and get a settled team we'll move up the table.
By that time, pooner and his deluded band of fantasists will have long gone from here.
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| Quote ="back to back to back"so....basically, the teams that have used the least amount of players (pretty settled 17) aree the ones generally near the top. Hudds 22.
As soon as we get bodies back and get a settled team we'll move up the table.
By that time, pooner and his deluded band of fantasists will have long gone from here.'"
what about Bulls then
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"what about Bulls then
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They're just sh*t.
(hope i don't tempt fate for the next game)
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"As far as I cam remember only Sinfield was injured in the WCC'"
it wasn't so much the injuries sustained in that match, as the amount of effort and disappointment suffered by your team after the loss
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| Quote ="handrags"it wasn't so much the injuries sustained in that match, as the amount of effort and disappointment suffered by your team after the loss'"
Not really, we won the next game 62-4. Admittedly against a side suffering from injuries, but the disappointment was pretty much shaken off that night.
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| Quote ="TheDoc"Leeds are where they are purely because of their injury list
Take 8 first teamers out of any side and see what happens
I should know, we lose Briers and we are "$%£%^^&
They will return, so everyone beware'"
Thanks I really hope you are right if not it could be a long season!
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| Quote ="PONNER"Not heard us mention our injury list. '"
Huddersfield fans are rarely heard under any circumstances.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"what about Bulls then
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[i'The Bulls have had the toughest set of opening fixtures of any team this season.'[/i
Regards
Steve McNamara (Sky Sports pundit)
I think it was the same night he predicted the Crusaders would finish the season inside the eight. He declined to comment at whose expense.
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| As an outsider looking in, I think it is obvious what a great player Sinfield is at this level.
Both Burrows and Mcguire are runners/support players, Burrows looked lost the other night running across the line. Sinfield alone will make a massive difference.
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| There are a couple of things that are clear to me and, to be honest, can't really be argued.
This season, so far, we have been the team worst hit by injury problems.
In previous seasons, we have not had any major injury crisis and have probably been one of the most fortunate sides, when it comes to injury problems in our 25 man first team squad.
Now, we did have a poor start pre WCC and were beaten by better sides on the day but then played a very good WCC and walloped (albeit) a poor Quins side. Since then we have been ravaged by injury and, until last Friday, looked poor even based on the expectations and on paper line-up. We lost the Hull KR game for me, they did not win it, it was two poor sides and they were slightly less poor than we were!
I don't think we can be measured and assessed yet by any fans fully, including our own, until such time we have more-or-less a first choice 17 on the park, which as only happened at Quins (sort of) since the distraction of the WCC.
This weekend will start to show what our real form is looking like, even with some key players missing. If we can pull two wins out of this weekend I will be delighted and feel that the GF is easily within our reach. One win from two would not be a disaster, but would hope that would be Catalans away. Two losses and I might allow myself to worry a little, but the next 7 games, to bring us to half-way, is when I think we, and other fans, can start making judgements on our prospects for the rest of the season.
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| Quote ="PONNER"So far this season.
B.Hodgson missed 3
B.Drew missed all 7
J.Lolesi missed 2
P.Whatuira missed 4
K.Mason missed 6
D.Fa'alogo injured last week
S.Wild missed 5
S.Finnigan missed all 7
D.Kirmond missed all 7 now gone to Wakey
M.Aspinwall missed 3
M.Lawrence missed 1
S.Grix missed 1
L.Patrick missed 1
G.Horne missed 2
Not heard us mention our injury list. 14 1st teamers missed at least 1 game so far this season.'"
Just to repeat...win something.
As a Leeds fan for many, many years I know how you feel deep down. I know that all the insults you hurl and all the p!$$ taking never, ever feels satisfying. The hollowness of winning a league game when the team you beat later goes on to win [ianother[/i Championship.
I pity you. No, really.
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| Ponner the players missing games were not all due to injury were they ?? I think some were discipline especially in the case of mason? I may be wrong tho ? in one case that of kirmond he was no going to get a game anyhow
I think you'll find that the rhinos are all due to injury and at the same time hardly comparable
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| Quote ="rhinogonemad"Ponner the players missing games were not all due to injury were they ?? I think some were discipline especially in the case of mason? I may be wrong tho ? in one case that of kirmond he was no going to get a game anyhow
I think you'll find that the rhinos are all due to injury and at the same time hardly comparable'"
At last someone who answers in a proper manner, so I will return the favour.
Mason tore a bicep so has been out since the first minute of this season but should be back this weekend. Regarding Kirmond, he was a vital member of our team last year and probably our form 2nd rower until his injury. We've strengthened in that position over the off season though so his chances may have been limited but he would still have played some games before now i'm sure. Thanks for your reply.
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