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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"If Senior doesn't cop for 4-6 match ban I would be amazed.
Right or wrong - you simply cannot have experienced players calling refs in that way in public.'"
If that is the case I would hope the Leeds playing and coaching staff would declare themselves unavailable to any members of the media for interviews in the immediate aftermath of any game.
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| Didn't Keith called Silverwood arrogant?
Last year Justin Morgan got £4k fine with half suspended for calling Ben Thaler sub-standard.
I can't imagine they will judge Senior's comments any more harshly than that.
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| Quote ="rhinosgirl"I can't imagine they will judge Senior's comments any more harshly than that.'"
Me neither I wonder how Keith will raise the £2K if needs be.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Me neither I wonder how Keith will raise the £2K if needs be.'"
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| Quote ="rhinosgirl"Ebay
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Was it the one where Melbourne beat Leeds? Yup I remember now, I did watch it, was a good game thought the ref did well.
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Trophies ....you have any
It was a good game I enjoyed seeing my side on the world stage and competing with the best in the world. Something the the inbred neighbours can only dream of.
However I was thinking about the 3x SL champion trophies?
Or the trophy you get for shagging every team in SL at least once and finish top of the pack?
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| Quote ="rhinosgirl"Didn't Keith called Silverwood arrogant?
Last year Justin Morgan got £4k fine with half suspended for calling Ben Thaler sub-standard.
I can't imagine they will judge Senior's comments any more harshly than that.'"
Exactly! All Morgan called Thaler was Sub Standard and he got huge 4K fine, quite substantial for a SL player/coach. The only way you can punish a coach is by a fine, so i suspect Keith will get maybe half of that fine and 2 game ban.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"The only way you can punish a coach is by a fine'"
They could make them sit on the replacements bench instead of in the stand.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Exactly! All Morgan called Thaler was Sub Standard and he got huge 4K fine, quite substantial for a SL player/coach. The only way you can punish a coach is by a fine, so i suspect Keith will get maybe half of that fine and 2 game ban.'"
Not sure they can ban a player for something thats occured OFF the field
more than likely a hefty fine (half suspended) and a severe warning as to future conduct.
I have a couple of those framed on the wall.
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| Quote ="G1"If that is the case I would hope the Leeds playing and coaching staff would declare themselves unavailable to any members of the media for interviews in the immediate aftermath of any game.'"
Possibly a way forward - for some of the players who are incapable of appropriate comment
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Did Senior question the integrity of the official, or just his character and inter-personal skills?
I can recall a couple of coaches referring to "feeling cheated" in recent years and escaping without a ban.'"
There is a difference between what Senior said, i.e, the ref is not interested in following the rules of the game in his desire to the centre of attention and a coach saying a ref had a bad day at the office
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"I think there is a difference between players and coaches - also at that time Saints were the darlings of RL and intimidated the RFL.
Senior has questioned the integrity of an official - Anderson questioned the competence - big difference'"
The only difference is one is connected to Leeds, whom you support!!!!!!!
Senior should keep his trap shut or sod off with the footie players, playing RL is about respecting the man in the middle no matter what, especially if you get paid for it!!!
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"The only difference is one is connected to Leeds, whom you support!!!!!!!
Senior should keep his trap shut or sod off with the footie players, playing RL is about respecting the man in the middle no matter what, especially if you get paid for it!!!'"
Grow up - I am saying Senior should get a ban - love them or hate no official no game.
We want to improve the quality of the officials, this will only come about by greater competition for a full time position - abusing refs in the media is simply not on. Getting a video of the game, and talking through the inconsistences with the refs is a different matter.
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Grow up - I am saying Senior should get a ban - love them or hate no official no game.
We want to improve the quality of the officials, this will only come about by greater competition for a full time position - abusing refs in the media is simply not on. Getting a video of the game, and talking through the inconsistences with the refs is a different matter.'"
I see yer point but every week they have a video "review" session with cummings and it's done bugger all to improve the consistency of the calls they make week after week.
At least when Mcullum was in charge there was more clarity and they answered for persistent poor performances.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"Not sure they can ban a player for something thats occured OFF the field
more than likely a hefty fine (half suspended) and a severe warning as to future conduct.
I have a couple of those framed on the wall.
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I think you make a good point here, Senior and his team were punished by Silverwood for his poor conduct on the pitch! As such, that matter is closed and now the issue Senior faces is about bringing the game into disrepute for comments after the match. The precedent for this matter, especially in relation to coaches is to fine them heavily and issue a written warning about their conduct, indicating that a possible charge of misconduct could follow if repeated. He is going to get fined, possibly also by GH and the club, and sent a harsh letter. I don't recall of any incident of this kind that was committed off-the-field bringing about a ban and I think it would be odd to do so as it was not for a breach of on-field discipline or conduct.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I think you make a good point here, Senior and his team were punished by Silverwood for his poor conduct on the pitch! As such, that matter is closed and now the issue Senior faces is about bringing the game into disrepute for comments after the match. The precedent for this matter, especially in relation to coaches is to fine them heavily and issue a written warning about their conduct, indicating that a possible charge of misconduct could follow if repeated. He is going to get fined, possibly also by GH and the club, and sent a harsh letter. I don't recall of any incident of this kind that was committed off-the-field bringing about a ban and I think it would be odd to do so as it was not for a breach of on-field discipline or conduct.'"
Looking at the operational rules I suspect that, although "involvement in Matches or from grounds during the conduct of Matches" is a possible punishment open to them, the general guidance for punishment of misconduct is a fine imposed on person or club.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"Not sure they can ban a player for something thats occured OFF the field
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what about Long & Gleeson?
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"what about Long & Gleeson?'"
As I have said, the operational rules do allow them to 'suspend' (I use that word for ease, but they do not use that phrase at all in this part of the rules, but they do use the term in relation to on-field disciplinary procedure!) but the rules are geared more towards fines with published structures and sizes/limits of fines already in place.
As such Long and Gleeson were banned from "involvement in Matches or from grounds during the conduct of Matches" as part of there punishment. I would however, suggest that this is a far more serious offence than the offence Senior is alleged to have committed and they did also get fined IIRC?
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"Silverwood
[urlhttp://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leedsrhinosnews/Leeds-Rhinos-Dan39s-focused-on.6130752.jp[/url'"
Good I hope he screws you moaning Rhinos
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"Good I hope he screws you moaning Rhinos'"
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Quote ="Mick Gledhill"Ganson will give us f**k all on Saturday night'"
Quote ="Mick Gledhill"Steve blooooooody Ganson in charge and Phil Bentham as the video official.
Cummings has really played his trump cards this week in his quest to you know . . . . . . '"
Quote ="Mick Gledhill"Depends who the referee is.
If it's Ganson, Bentham, Child, Thaler or Silverthon the Warrington by 40+
If not then Bulls by a good three or four tries.'"
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