Think Sinfield has been misquoted there. Yes I know better, but only because Hetherington announced it the other year about Hall and Watkins been our registered Marquee, due to only £100k of their salary counting on the cap as club developed.

We haven’t gone backwards, and we haven’t gone forwards as we haven’t improved the players. We couldn’t go any more backwards than where we were this time last season. The club was destroyed under McDermotts stewardship, but Hetherington should be held equally responsible for that, for letting him do it.

How do you do that without the backing of the management? I mean it doesn’t look like they have backed him. Perhaps certain players knew this, and hence the lack of desire and effort.

Good luck with Agar, he took us from a top 4 club to a bottom 4 one in 2 years, knackered Wakefield and Warrington. How he gets jobs is a mystery, he needs write books on job interviews. Hetheringtons love him tho!!

lead by sol and others,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, leeds have no leaders

lead by sol and others,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, leeds have no leaders

It is the first time we have had Marquee players , Hall and Watkins have never been on more than 150K . I would think Merrin and Hurrel are on 250K plus , of which only 150K for each player is counted in the salary cap .

Richard Agar? Gentlemen, if you thought your plight couldn't get any worse, it just has.

Your wrong. Look back on the YEP. And your miles off Halls wage there. Hall and Watkins only £100k counted on cap.

You’re not wrong here. Plus, Watkins partly funded on a central contract so less on the cap, plus England international which is more off the cap.

I'm very surprised, but I guess something had to give. Phil Gould a while ago said that it just sometimes reaches a point when players stop playing and its them or the coach. Its happened quickly this time, but you wonder if the same thing was happening under BM as well.

Now the onus is well and truly on the players. We've been terrible for almost two full years, and 3 out of the last 4, with a chunk of the squad here over the whole period.

That means only one of two things - either the players that are playing badly are genuinely not good enough, or they simply haven't been putting in the effort. Regardless of which is the answer to that one any players in either camp need to be got rid of over time - we don't want sub-par players and we definitely do not want players who only play when they want to.

How the team plays in the near future will tell us a lot about which camp some of our apparent duffers are in.

I think it was the 2016 season where Hetherington made the statement. Pointing out Marquee could be overseas or club developed that you needed to nominate. We had gone the club trained due to less counting on the cap, and he named who we had registered. He said we had Watkins and then we were switching to Hall, or other way around. You had to nominate each season.

Possibly the only man with more compromising photos than James Lowes.

I would opt for the players are not good enough option. All the quality that filled the gaps in and made the mediocre players look better has gone. I don't think they have a good performance in them and our league position is absolutely accurate. I'm not sure what anyone was expecting from Furner, the team was when he joined us, we lost McGuire and Hall and surprise - it's still . If the players didn't "Like" him well f*** them, they hardly have any credit to trade with after last season and their abject uselessness this season.
A total mess wrapped in a shambles and delivered in a box of catastrophe.

But aren't we constantly told the good coaches in SL get average payers playing above their capability, Chester, Watson and Powell all are praised for making a team better than the sum of their parts, by that line of thinking if Furner was a good coach we would have seen some improvement from last year, especially as we have added a bit of quality from the NRL.

I believe that because you see your teams players every week they become bigger "names" than the mystery players from other teams. Because of that there is an expectation that "on paper" we look a better team than some others when in reality we're worse. There is the possibility that Furner was getting the best he or anyone else possibly could out of that squad. Furner might be a good coach with the wrong set of players.

Well if there is no appointment in the next two or three games let's see if Agar gets a new coach bounce out of the players. After all that's being said about Furner wanting a number of them out. I would think if they have any pride they should be busting a gut to get on the field to prove him wrong

Well considering we are playing a championship team this week, there is hardly any excuses for that one is there?

Couldnt agree more

Adding 2 Marquee signings this year to our squad is akin to planting two prize rose bushes in a field full of weeds and expecting the Chelsea Flower Show!

But Sir Kev has previously said the same before and after the season started so I can’t see getting rid of Furner is going to change the mind sets of those players on the ‘no longer wanted’ list.

So Watkins and Hall were on more than 150K ? and Sir Kev was wrong when he said we had not had Marquee players before this season ?

Where has Sinfield named players he wanted to move on?

Yes, and Yes, if you want to put it like that. Or you can simply look at it for what it is, a play on words. It is the first time we have Marquee overseas players, it isn't the first time we have used the Marquee player rule on the cap, or at least according to Hetherington previously it wasn't.

From what I recall Pete Smith wrote an article in the YEP very early on in the season, possibly even pre-season with a list of players that it was understood from Sir Kev were available for immediate release if they could find another club

Players we could all have named liked Walters, Mullalley, Ormondroyd were on it but then there were the likes of Golding, Cuthbo and Parcell, although Cuthbo came out pretty quickly on social media to say he knew nothing of being told he was surplus to requirements.

Furner in?