The silence from the club is getting scarier and scarier to be honest. They really are rotten, Sinfield was not lying there.

Previous years, Hetherington can't keep his gob shut, now he has gone into hiding. I would have thought, considering the piece yesterday on the ex Leeds players all having their view on the danger for the club, that some response would have been forthcoming, but nothing. The arrogance at top level is astounding at times. Lets not forget whilst also running down the Rhinos for the last few years, that Hetherington has also failed in the same period big time with the union outfit. That is not a good current record at all, for all his good work in his first 15 years at Leeds.

You know what, I think it just might be. I notice in a recent YEP article Barrie Mac hopes it will be Powell - insider information? If it is I'd imagine Powell will want to see out the year with Cas, leave the current predicament at the club to Agar to sort out, and then come in with a full pre-season ahead of him for 2020. Just speculation mind!

He would need to he recruiting and making decisions on deadwood now though, even with a pre season if there is that much dross/injury afflicted/too old players there. Pre season with powell wont do much, major surgery is needed.

He appointed KS to DOR a job that he included with his COE duties tells me he is getting a bit fatigued as we all do as we get older. Mr Caxdick too not getting any younger . Maybe the club could do with new investors coming in and taking over and gi e the club some new vibrancy. Just a thought

Caddick had new investors three years back, and Hetherington stopped it all to take a greater share himself along with a couple of others. Hence, why Caddick has had nothing to do with the union side over last three years, and very little with the Rhinos.

Yes I've mixed feelings about Sheens. Has been a great coach but gut feeling is hes had his time but no doubting his class

Lots of people pretending they know what's going on in this thread whilst simultaneously expressing concern that they don't know what's going on.

Rushing into the next appointment would be madness. Agar is a safe pair of hands for now whilst they work out what's the best option going forward. They're certainly not going to give a blow by blow account to keep people on here happy.

Agar is not a safe pair of hands !

Relax, the ghost of 99 also backed everything under McDermott, and anything the club as ever come out with. It the club said today was Thursday he would say they are right.

precisely, nobody knows whats going on at training, Agar will be coach for at least the next 4 -6 games and maybe even rest of the season, if the club is happy that the players are now putting the effort in off the field and genuinely looking to fix it then so be it, may take 3-4 more games before we really see an upward curve. The club do not have to give us a running update on whats going on, they have stated Agar is the man for the time being and we have to accept that. only thing that matters is we beat London and then get some back to back wins and put some space away from bottom spot to ease the pressure..

Sheens is ill what ive been told he is going home

I do not have to accept anything and i certainly do not accept Agar as coach

yes you do there are lots of things in life you just after accept, if you stab someone to death or mow them down in your car, you are likely to be tried for murder. You have to accept that. Richard agar is currently Leeds rhinos head coach, fact! you have to accept that. You don't have to like it or agree with it but that's a different matter but you have to accept it as its a hard fact.

I'm afraid you do. What are you proposing to do if you don't accept it?

Get his bottom lip out and stamp his feet?

Another important consequence of our current Agar holding pattern will be potential damage to any recruitment conversations, in particular down under.

Imagine any negotiations with Josh jones.
We have a coach who does not want the job and no idea who may takeover, Hull FC can put Radford in front of him to tell Jones exactly what he wants for next season and what his plans are.

Hard to imagine the likes of Joel Thompson who will know Furner from Canberra wanting to come to a club in full on meander mode and risk of relegation.

No it's ok though we need stability........ tumble weed....

If not having a permanent head coach in place was a contributing factor in us not getting the signature of Josh Jones, I for one am going to take that as a silver lining.

Well unfortunately it won't be Maurice Bamford who has sadly passed away yesterday. I remember Maurice's days as coach at Leeds fondly, not because of the team or performances necessarily, but because he was a character and it was early in my days of supporting the club so he was something of a beacon.

RIP Maurice, last of the blood and thunder coaches...

That is gutting, sorry to hear that. And yet the club hasn't even put a statement out on the website.

Excerpt from YEP interview with Agar, seems a bit no sherlock, but it sometimes is that simple.


“It is about a collective effort,” he stated.

“It goes without saying there’s some things really hurting us.

“We came up with nine yardage errors [coming away from their own territory and a dissent penalty in our own half.

“There were probably 11 poor kick finishes out of 19 – that’s seven-tackle sets when you are racing back to get onside.”


And he stressed: “Our tackling’s just not good enough.

“I’m not saying people aren’t trying, but it’s ineffective energy.

“When we put together a performance where we work together in defence and have a bit more understanding and desire to work for each other a bit harder, it will fall into place.”

Just read Maurice Bamford has died. Mentioned him on this thread - turned a garbage team into a good one 1983-84. Loved him for that and how he helped bring pride and interest into GB.

R.I.P Maurice Bamford,took my first ever coaching badge with him at the helm,a true character.Him and Peter Fox will be having a right old chinwag at the great rugby ground in the sky.

I'm prepared to give Agar a go for the rest of the season. From twitter, ex-players seem to rate him really highly. Let's see how we get on this weekend though.

I think a lot of top coaches will be put off the structure at Leeds. Having to work under a DoR and have all recruitment decided for you might be too much of a compromise for some.

Yes but that's always been the case under Hetherington before Sinfield arrived