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| Ok not wanting to turn this into a Saints thread but
Turner first then Lomax
Tries 1 - 0
Assists 0 - 1
tackles 18 - 3
Missed T 2 - 2
Busts 2 - 5
Carries 10 - 17
Meters 59 - 180
Average M 5.9 - 10.59
Clean Breaks 1 - 2
Errors 0- 1
Offloads 2 - 1
To me that puts Lomax ahead as the performer in that match on stats alone.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Ok not wanting to turn this into a Saints thread but
Turner first then Lomax
Tries 1 - 0
Assists 0 - 1
tackles 18 - 3
Missed T 2 - 2
Busts 2 - 5
Carries 10 - 17
Meters 59 - 180
Average M 5.9 - 10.59
Clean Breaks 1 - 2
Errors 0- 1
Offloads 2 - 1
To me that puts Lomax ahead as the performer in that match on stats alone.'"
Turner 2 missed tackles? No chance those stats are accurate.
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| Looking forward to this one. We desperately need a win in this one to validate everything we did over easter. We looked soft and unmotivated against Wigan and we rested most of our best players against Widnes. That was all with this game in mind, so we need to back that up to stop our bubble from well and truly bursting! I do worry that we're a little of the boil at the moment though, even without easter coming into play. I fear Leeds will win, as they usually do when it matters
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Turner 2 missed tackles? No chance those stats are accurate.'"
That's where I was coming from with his defence was better.
I can't really push it though, as the same stats people had Briscoe down as 4 errors on Monday.
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| will the SS be all ticket or will I be alright paying on the gate on sat?
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| Really don't know about this one, the fact that Saints really took their foot off the gas over Easter frightens me a little. It's as if they were prepared to drop a position or two in readiness for Saturday.
If we start the game like we did against Salford it'll be over before half time. I think we're stronger in the 3/4's so that's where we should channel our energies. If Amor's playing they'll match us in the forwards and they've enough quality in their halves to cause serious damage, especially Walsh.
Toughest game of the season so far IMO.
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| There appears to be a bit of a buzz and feeling of genuine anticipation surrounding this CC game which may indicate the possibility of registering a rare five-figure attendance for an event which isn't covered by a season ticket, cheap offers and free tickets.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Really don't know about this one, the fact that Saints really took their foot off the gas over Easter frightens me a little. It's as if they were prepared to drop a position or two in readiness for Saturday.
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I dunno, having an extra game hasn't done us a lot of harm going into big games against Saints in the past.....
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| Quote ="William Eve"There appears to be a bit of a buzz and feeling of genuine anticipation surrounding this CC game which may indicate the possibility of registering a rare five-figure attendance for an event which isn't covered by a season ticket, cheap offers and free tickets.'"
I'm not interested in it. Being to all games this year but the challenge cup. Really don't care win or lose this week. Don't get me wrong, always want Leeds to win, but won't be as disappointed if we lose Saturday as I was other week against them.
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Leeds Rhinos Head Coach Brian McDermott has named an unchanged 19 man squad for this Saturday's massive Tetley's Challenge Cup clash with St Helens at Headingley Carnegie, kick off 2.30pm.
Kallum Watkins, who missed Monday's win over Salford, retains his place in the 19 man squad, as does Ian Kirke, who was 18th man for the Easter Monday clash.
The squad in full is:
1 Zak Hardaker
2 Ben Jones-Bishop
3 Kallum Watkins
4 Joel Moon
5 Ryan Hall
6 Danny McGuire
7 Rob Burrow
8 Kylie Leuluai
10 Jamie Peacock
12 Carl Ablett
13 Kevin Sinfield (c)
15 Brett Delaney
16 Ryan Bailey
17 Ian Kirke
18 Chris Clarkson
19 Mitch Achurch
20 Tom Briscoe
21 Liam Sutcliffe
23 Brad Singleton
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I'm not interested in it. Being to all games this year but the challenge cup. Really don't care win or lose this week. Don't get me wrong, always want Leeds to win, but won't be as disappointed if we lose Saturday as I was other week against them.'"
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"What?'"
Errrrr, I'm not interested in this particular game, or the cup. Is that clearer?
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Saints are more than capable of shutting down leeds 3/4's. Saints halfbacks and pack is better. Saints 3/4's aren't too shabby either. What's the bet theres another Makinson special in the corner, 4ft off the ground this time, sending Jonathon davies into raptures.'"
Don't agree. If we choose to use our 3/4 line rather than bulldoze down the middle all game we will score against them. I think the packs are evenly matched. Too close to call and should be a cracker.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I'm not interested in it. Being to all games this year but the challenge cup. Really don't care win or lose this week. Don't get me wrong, always want Leeds to win, but won't be as disappointed if we lose Saturday as I was other week against them.'"
Saints fans appear giddy having rediscovered their enthusiasm this season for obvious reasons, therefore a 3K-ish turnout from them at Headingley on Saturday might provoke the possibility of a five-figure attendance. We shall have to wait and see.
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| Bjb and Clarkson to drop out imo.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Bjb and Clarkson to drop out imo.'"
Agree with this, considering our injuries with the above missing out its our strongest team!!
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| Singleton needs to watch is shoulder charge, flied in with 2 in last 2 games, whilst I applaud heavy hitting, don't want him copping a ban. Better on the pitch than on the sidelines.
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| Amor, Percival and Swift all named in the Saints squad - feel a little better having seen that, but apparently Amor/Swift still 50/50 according to Brown.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I'm not interested in it. Being to all games this year but the challenge cup. Really don't care win or lose this week. Don't get me wrong, always want Leeds to win, but won't be as disappointed if we lose Saturday as I was other week against them.'"
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| I'd say Bailey and BJB to miss out. Harsh on BJB but can't have an outside back on the bench
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Singleton needs to watch is shoulder charge, flied in with 2 in last 2 games, whilst I applaud heavy hitting, don't want him copping a ban. Better on the pitch than on the sidelines.'"
2 Cracking hits that need to be made legal imo I agree with our Coach they were "face on" and hit other forwards don't see the problem.
The late ones or those that a directly side on and high deserve sending offs and bans but what Singo did imo was put 2 classy big hits in but the powers that be now deem them illegal.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"2 Cracking hits that need to be made legal imo I agree with our Coach they were "face on" and hit other forwards don't see the problem.
The late ones or those that a directly side on and high deserve sending offs and bans but what Singo did imo was put 2 classy big hits in but the powers that be now deem them illegal.'"
I agree with the theory but as you acknowledge them are deemed illegal so you've got to box clever. I don't want to see bans when very avoidable.
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| The definition of the shoulder charge seems to have gone from "leading with the point of the shoulder" towards the Union definition of "not using the arms to hit and wrap" as the season has gone on.
The former can be dangerous (for ball carrier and tackler alike) the latter much less so. The balance needs redressing IMO.
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| Late contact with the shoulder should be illegal - thought it already was before banning shoulder charges.
Contact with the shoulder to the head of the ball carrier should be illegal - thought it already was after Bailey's hit on Fa'asavalu got Graham all riled up.
However with the ball tucked under your arm, dip your shoulder into the defender and hey presto that's fair game.
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| It's forecast rain tomorrow, who wants to tell the Saints fans?
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