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| Quote ="benduke15"ye true.. but would burrow want to drop to the bench though?? ....'"
Whether Burrow would want to do it or not should not come into it
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"Last year we went unbeaten when he was out of the team.'"
In the words of one respected contributor to these forums - no we didn't.
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Quote ="Era of the Biff"Yes. Leeds best form last year coincided with him being out of the team.
Read into that what you will.'"
I wouldn't read much into it. If anything it had more to do with it coming to the business end of the season when Leeds have traditionally raised their game for the last 3 years.
Comparing the stats of Diskin and Buderus for last season shows that Buderus is far more potent as an attacking player with more clean breaks and try assists than Diskin despite playing fewer games, although he was more prone to making errors and giving penalties away.
This year Buderus is yet again ahead on clean breaks and try assists and is making fewer errors but still giving more penalties away than Diskin.
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
Anyway, I'd definitely offer Buderus a year extension to his deal if the price is right.
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Quote ="Era of the Biff"Yes. Leeds best form last year coincided with him being out of the team.
Read into that what you will.'"
I wouldn't read much into it. If anything it had more to do with it coming to the business end of the season when Leeds have traditionally raised their game for the last 3 years.
Comparing the stats of Diskin and Buderus for last season shows that Buderus is far more potent as an attacking player with more clean breaks and try assists than Diskin despite playing fewer games, although he was more prone to making errors and giving penalties away.
This year Buderus is yet again ahead on clean breaks and try assists and is making fewer errors but still giving more penalties away than Diskin.
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
Anyway, I'd definitely offer Buderus a year extension to his deal if the price is right.
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| Quote ="tvoc"In the words of one respected contributor to these forums - no we didn't.'"
Ok. I'll clarify for the stupid.
When he got injured at wigan we then went unbeaten.
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Quote ="Exeter Rhino"I wouldn't read much into it. If anything it had more to do with it coming to the business end of the season when Leeds have traditionally raised their game for the last 3 years.
Comparing the stats of Diskin and Buderus for last season shows that Buderus is far more potent as an attacking player with more clean breaks and try assists than Diskin despite playing fewer games, although he was more prone to making errors and giving penalties away.
This year Buderus is yet again ahead on clean breaks and try assists and is making fewer errors but still giving more penalties away than Diskin.
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
Anyway, I'd definitely offer Buderus a year extension to his deal if the price is right.'"
Who said anything about Diskin?
Feel free to turn it into yet another Diskin Buderus argument.
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Quote ="Exeter Rhino"I wouldn't read much into it. If anything it had more to do with it coming to the business end of the season when Leeds have traditionally raised their game for the last 3 years.
Comparing the stats of Diskin and Buderus for last season shows that Buderus is far more potent as an attacking player with more clean breaks and try assists than Diskin despite playing fewer games, although he was more prone to making errors and giving penalties away.
This year Buderus is yet again ahead on clean breaks and try assists and is making fewer errors but still giving more penalties away than Diskin.
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
Anyway, I'd definitely offer Buderus a year extension to his deal if the price is right.'"
Who said anything about Diskin?
Feel free to turn it into yet another Diskin Buderus argument.
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"Ok. I'll clarify for the stupid.
When he got injured at wigan we then went unbeaten.'"
That's better.
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"Who said anything about Diskin?'"
You opined on the first page of this thread that Buderus should be outside the '20/20'. Unless you also believe Diskin should be outside it as well, then the comparison is relevant, seeing as Diskin will probably revert to taking the 9 shirt if Buderus leaves.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"You opined on the first page of this thread that Buderus should be outside the '20/20'. Unless you also believe Diskin should be outside it as well, then the comparison is relevant, seeing as Diskin will probably revert to taking the 9 shirt if Buderus leaves.'"
It's equally irrelevant since the 20/20 rule no longer exists...
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"as Diskin will probably revert to taking the 9 shirt if Buderus leaves.'"
And so he should.
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| Next seasons recruitment is a tough one.
I would like to see a new centre, I like Senior and he's been awesome over the years, I think next year could be 1 too many, if indeed this season isn't. However, if he finds last seasons form again, then I'd be happy for him to get another year and hopefully Watkins will come good after his injury. If we were to get a new centre, purely from an entertainment point of view, I'd love a flair player.
I think we could also do with another barn storming up and at em forward. Again probably more so from an entertainment point of view, although I do think that with Kylie and Peacock ageing we could do with another yardage prop.
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| Quote ="Superted"However, if he finds last seasons form again, then I'd be happy for him to get another year '"
It's already a done deal according to one poster on here .... [size=50Mind you he also reckoned Smith would be here for the game away at Wigan and Ablett was gone for the season with a similar problem to Watkins.[/size
Quote ="Andy Gilder"It's equally irrelevant since the 20/20 rule no longer exists...'"
It was a good one while it was here though.... so good it saved cricket.
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| Id ask James Graham if hed like to play for a champion side. He doessnt seem happy playing for Saints and at 25 yrs old IMO would be a great signing
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| Quote ="BigM"Id ask James Graham if hed like to play for a champion side. He doessnt seem happy playing for Saints and at 25 yrs old IMO would be a great signing'"
I hate Graham.. but he's a bloody good player.
Sign him and Bosc and i'd be happy
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| James Graham? Give me Ryan Bailey's old man anyday
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| Quote ="Clearwing"James Graham? Give me TMFMISLD anyday'"
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| Quote ="Clearwing"James Graham? Give me Ryan Bailey's old man anyday'"
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| I'd keep Senior and Watkins for the left centre role, and wouldn't particularly look at signing anyone else in the backs even if Donald leaves, apart from possibly a reserve halfback. I'm not really sure where else I'd look to strengthen either, unless one of our existing forwards leaves.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"I'd keep Senior and Watkins for the left centre role, and wouldn't particularly look at signing anyone else in the backs even if Donald leaves, apart from possibly a reserve halfback. I'm not really sure where else I'd look to strengthen either, unless one of our existing forwards leaves.'"
It's a real shame Watkins injury ruled him out for the season because we still don't know if he's ready to take over from Senior.Is Senior worth another 12 months I'm not sure but if we sign another left centre my fear is we could stifle Watkins development or lose him to another club.
Tough decisions for the management ahead.
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| The watkins / Senior one is a puzzler. Kind of like Connolly Mathers in 2003/2004. With little first team experience, and coming back from a veru serious injury it would be stupid of the club to discard senior and go with watkins. Signing another player would probably not do well for Watkins either as they'd be on longer than 1 year, and expect to play more than not, or not be good enough.
Much as I think its not the best place to be, I'd offer Senior a 1 year deal, merely to be a transition for Watkins so he's bedded in by the end of the season and we can see how good he is.
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"Yes. Leeds best form last year coincided with him being out of the team.
Read into that what you will.'"
you could argue that Buderus was one of our better performers on the run up to his injury though.
You cannot say that we only went on the run we did because Diskin became the main hooker.
I know it's all hypathetical but you could just as easily say that our performances would have been even better with easier/better/bigger wins had it been diskin out with the broken leg and Buderus had been our main hooker from July.
Buderus whilst not at his NRL peak form is still a class act in Super League and if a suitable deal can be struck I'd love him to have one last season with us.
Now he is over the injuries that blighted his first season when several on here were slating his signing,surely even his most harsh critics on here can now see how he adds to our team?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"apart from possibly a reserve halfback.'"
Sinfield & Webb are our very good reserve half backs, who could we bring in of the same quality as those on a low wage willing to play a handful of games.
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"you could argue that Buderus was one of our better performers on the run up to his injury though.'"
You could but he wasn't.
Quote ="cheekydiddles"You cannot say that we only went on the run we did because Diskin became the main hooker..'"
I can. I can say what I like.
Quote ="cheekydiddles"I know it's all hypathetical but you could just as easily say that our performances would have been even better with easier/better/bigger wins had it been diskin out with the broken leg and Buderus had been our main hooker from July...'"
I'm going from facts. Feel free to make up hypothetical situations to support your Budeus lovefest.
Quote ="cheekydiddles"Buderus whilst not at his NRL peak form is still a class act in Super League and if a suitable deal can be struck I'd love him to have one last season with us.'"
Is he? Which games has he made a difference in?
Quote ="cheekydiddles"Now he is over the injuries that blighted his first season when several on here were slating his signing,surely even his most harsh critics on here can now see how he adds to our team?'"
What has he added?
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Sinfield & Webb are our very good reserve half backs, who could we bring in of the same quality as those on a low wage willing to play a handful of games.'"
The form of McGuire and Burrow over the last three or so years has seen a number of promising "next big thing" halfbacks go elsewhere to get regular first team rugby - Luke Gale, Gareth Moore and Kyle Briggs spring to mind straight away.
Had the dual registration system been around earlier perhaps one or more of those might have been persuaded he had a future at Headingley.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"The form of McGuire and Burrow over the last three or so years has seen a number of promising "next big thing" halfbacks go elsewhere to get regular first team rugby - Luke Gale, Gareth Moore and Kyle Briggs spring to mind straight away.
Had the dual registration system been around earlier perhaps one or more of those might have been persuaded he had a future at Headingley.'"
I agree and I'm sure an academy player would be happy to play a few games a year when he got the chance but Brisbane mentioned signing a back up half from outside.
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| Not all signings of promising players from outside the club work out that well - for every Richie Myler there's a Greg McNally.
Much better to develop your own from within, although I haven't see much of the lower grades lately so I don't know what the quality is like in the up and coming half backs?
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