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| Lots of words, says sod all...
He’s basically saying trust us we will sort this but we’re not saying how. Well Gary, given the last few years of complete tripe, trust is something that you will probably find is in short supply until people actually see the improvements in performance on the field.
No one is naive enough to think that this bunch of players could actually win something, but they are educated enough to know when people are not trying. The current squad is rotten, and adding bargain basement players like Albert to the squad isn’t going to change that.
If you want people to trust you, make a proper statement, with actions not words. Give them something to be proud of, you’ve made so many mistakes in the last 4 years, it’s about the only way you’ll be able to win back their trust.
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| To me it looked like a vote of confidence and we all know what they are
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| It is just the dreaded vote of confidence for Sir Kev.
Its alot of words that mean f-ck all. Just words.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Lots of words, says sod all...
He’s basically saying trust us we will sort this but we’re not saying how. Well Gary, given the last few years of complete tripe, trust is something that you will probably find is in short supply until people actually see the improvements in performance on the field.
No one is naive enough to think that this bunch of players could actually win something, but they are educated enough to know when people are not trying. The current squad is rotten, and adding bargain basement players like Albert to the squad isn’t going to change that.
If you want people to trust you, make a proper statement, with actions not words. Give them something to be proud of, you’ve made so many mistakes in the last 4 years, it’s about the only way you’ll be able to win back their trust.'"
What specifically would you have wanting him to say?
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| Well it would probably go a long way if he came clean about the way the transition has been handled and how the club need the fans to support them because this is the only way to raise the revenue needed to improve the quality and depth of the playing squad.
We need a bit of honesty to rebuild the trust, and all he’s said is “blah blah, Kevin, blah blah...”
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| I’ve got loads of respect for both GH and KS but the message seemed like they felt the need to say something but don’t know what to do next.
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| Maybe it's time for GH to call it a day?
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| 100% agree with Batley
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Lots of words, says sod all...
He’s basically saying trust us we will sort this but we’re not saying how. Well Gary, given the last few years of complete tripe, trust is something that you will probably find is in short supply until people actually see the improvements in performance on the field.
No one is naive enough to think that this bunch of players could actually win something, but they are educated enough to know when people are not trying. The current squad is rotten, and adding bargain basement players like Albert to the squad isn’t going to change that.
If you want people to trust you, make a proper statement, with actions not words. Give them something to be proud of, you’ve made so many mistakes in the last 4 years, it’s about the only way you’ll be able to win back their trust.'"
Totally agree, it was basically please don't boo on Thursday
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| If they play like they did saturday against a wounded Cas i can see a big defeat coming and the fans have every right to boo.
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| C'mon guys he isn't going to post a detailed plan. Also why dwell on the past. His posting of the letter is admission enough, take it at face value. Of course he knows he needs the fans, stop thinking he is stupid and doesn't know what he is doing
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| If we had someone lined up though, you would have expected at least an indication in that me me me me statement?
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| It's a load of patronising waffle. For 10 years GH has over-seen the replacement of international players with average players or academy graduates. Cue this mess! He can hire & fire as he wishes on a management or coaching level, but until the playing roster looks a bit more tasty we will be poor. A team will always be the sum of its parts.
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| Take out our marquee players and the squad as a whole on paper is absolute tripe.yes there are a few prospects like Walker, Oledski, Smith and Newman who in time likely top SL players.Ward is good but never fit but the rest are either way past it or simply not good enough/ destined to be journeymen scraps picked up by the basement boys every season.
Next coach has to be given the complete 100 percent backing to rip all this up and make his own choices or we will be going round in circles for a long time to come.
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| Quote ="LeedsLurch"C'mon guys he isn't going to post a detailed plan. Also why dwell on the past. His posting of the letter is admission enough, take it at face value. Of course he knows he needs the fans, stop thinking he is stupid and doesn't know what he is doing'"
Ever considered that perhaps he doesn't and has eventually reached the pinnacle of incompetence?
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| The main plan has to be to sort out key positions. We've got more than enough props now, and some decent kids coming through in the back row as well.
The focus has to be on the spine. Whilst 'getting rid' of players on the cap is hard, if we've learned anything over the past three seasons its that whilst you can be competitive with even one decent halfback, you'll struggle to win anything at all without one. Even if it means losing one or more of our players with some kind of value from elsewhere, we've just got to sort out a halfback. I tend to think we need a 1 and 9 as well, but first things first.
The other thing that is an absolute must is ditching any bad dressing room influences. I'm 100% sure we've got at least a few rotten apples in our squad. They need to be got rid of almost regardless of cap impact.
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| Yep good post is that and agree
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"The main plan has to be to sort out key positions. We've got more than enough props now, and some decent kids coming through in the back row as well.
The focus has to be on the spine. Whilst 'getting rid' of players on the cap is hard, if we've learned anything over the past three seasons its that whilst you can be competitive with even one decent halfback, you'll struggle to win anything at all without one. Even if it means losing one or more of our players with some kind of value from elsewhere, we've just got to sort out a halfback. I tend to think we need a 1 and 9 as well, but first things first.
The other thing that is an absolute must is ditching any bad dressing room influences. I'm 100% sure we've got at least a few rotten apples in our squad. They need to be got rid of almost regardless of cap impact.'"
This hits the spot for me too.
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| I really cant get making a big show off occasion of opening the Northstand especially when the team is in such a mess.
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| Hello everyone....sometime since I've posted....I'm transferring to North Stand from
South Stand on Thursday, got a feeling the evening will be quite restrained, the natives will be rather subdued...at least I hope so, lots and lots of critical eyes....
The irony of the situation will be of course beating Castleford, believe it!!
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| Quote ="Barley Mow"Hello everyone....sometime since I've posted....I'm transferring to North Stand from
South Stand on Thursday, got a feeling the evening will be quite restrained, the natives will be rather subdued...at least I hope so, lots and lots of critical eyes....
The irony of the situation will be of course beating Castleford, believe it!!'"
Maybe it should be billed as the team that can no longer attack versus the team that can no longer defend?
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Take out our marquee players and the squad as a whole on paper is absolute tripe.yes there are a few prospects like Walker, Oledski, Smith and Newman who in time likely top SL players.Ward is good but never fit but the rest are either way past it or simply not good enough/ destined to be journeymen scraps picked up by the basement boys every season.
Next coach has to be given the complete 100 percent backing to rip all this up and make his own choices or we will be going round in circles for a long time to come.'"
Sadly there is the issues of contracts - my understanding was Ablett was given a two year contract so he will be here next year regardless of the coach - same goes for a number in the squad. Lolohea & Crosby has two years left after this one seldom plays - and the other doesn't appear to be either fit or good enough - what can a new coach do in a salary cap sport.
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| Have to ask, this not moving contracted players on, its not impossible. Warrington refreshed our squad in 2015/16 and moved a number of players out that werent in smiths plans.
Jonas went to cas with 12 month left on a contract, chris bridge was shown the door with 2 years left and both james laithwaite and gary wheeler went before their deals expired.
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