Ablett would be a good choice, I think Cuthno could be a good leader although he hasn't been with us too long he is very experienced prop but I would go with Ablett for his consistency and his experience.

Maguire; Burrows; Zac etc.....you do have to despair if even the team's own supoorters get the team individuals names wrong.

So people don't think McGuire should be captain because he can be petulant, mouthy, give away penalties and have a moan at the ref.....but then suggest Carl Ablett who does all the same things.

If we were to go in a different direction than McGuire (and with Ward not available for some time) then I'd go Cuthbertson. Only been here a year I know but has made a big impact at the club already and not just on the pitch.

Reckon I'll stick with the preference of those most likely to know best, tempting as it is to press the panic button after a loss to wakey in a friendly some 7-odd weeks before the real stuff starts.

Whoever does become our Captain next season has effectively two pairs of boots to fill. It's a hell of an ask for anybody.

I didn't see the Wakey game, I have noticed these things from him stepping up as Captain last year. My main concern is that it seems to hinder his half back play which will be vital for us next year

But I'm sure Brian knows best. Has there actually been an official announcement from the club who will be captain? I can't remember one and I would have thought the club would have made a song and dance about?

Hetherington today:

" Danny has had an outstanding season. It is interesting how his game has matured. In the early part of his career he was an opportunist, but now he has great vision, outstanding ball handling ability, great defence and he reads the game so well. He will rise to the challenge of losing his halfback partner Kevin, and it's one he has already risen to. He has been developing this for the last few years. He will have an outstanding combination with Liam Sutcliffe. "

My guess that McGuire is a stop gap for Hardaker, Ward or Sutcliffe to have the captaincy long term.

My guess is that McGuire will hold the captaincy until he loses his place by which time Lilley will also be in the running.

McGuire captain for 2 years, then Ward will replace him. People suggesting Hardaker or Ablett must be joking. Two of the most petulant, niggly characters around!

Who was captain for the NZ game? McGuire was sensational in that game, ripped NZ to pieces

When Danny gives it up, Zak for captain. Hopefully a nice bonus, which will be a small part of keeping him from going down under.

Long term I see ward being named captain. Playing lose and taking on the level head sinfield roll. Zak should be vice as on the field he gives 100% every game and will always put his hand up when the going gets tough. Similar to the JP motivational role.

McGuire will be captain for the next two years and in my opinion deserves it. He's done enough good on his career to be given the opportunity to prove he's grown up and can be that leader we need.

Also, I really don't think there's anyone else even if they wanted to give it to someone else. Abbo has all the same petulance as mags. Burrow might not even get in the team if Lilly keeps developing the way he is. Ward is out for half the season, same with JJB. And cuthbo, the great man he is Has only been at the club a year.

Mags captain with cuthbo/JJB/ward/Zak leadership team around him.

Quote ="Joshheff90"Long term I see ward being named captain. Playing lose and taking on the level head sinfield roll. Zak should be vice as on the field he gives 100% every game and will always put his hand up when the going gets tough. Similar to the JP motivational role. McGuire will be captain for the next two years and in my opinion deserves it. He's done enough good on his career to be given the opportunity to prove he's grown up and can be that leader we need. Also, I really don't think there's anyone else even if they wanted to give it to someone else. Abbo has all the same petulance as mags. Burrow might not even get in the team if Lilly keeps developing the way he is. Ward is out for half the season, same with JJB. And cuthbo, the great man he is Has only been at the club a year. posting.php?mode=quote&f=17&p=18266676# Mags captain with cuthbo/JJB/ward/Zak leadership team around him.'" A fair assessment. I would have considered Burrow as a potential better captain, but as you say he is not as likely to actually be on the field. At best he will continue in the 'super-sub' role.

Quote ="Joshheff90"Long term I see ward being named captain. Playing lose and taking on the level head sinfield roll. Zak should be vice as on the field he gives 100% every game and will always put his hand up when the going gets tough. Similar to the JP motivational role. McGuire will be captain for the next two years and in my opinion deserves it. He's done enough good on his career to be given the opportunity to prove he's grown up and can be that leader we need. Also, I really don't think there's anyone else even if they wanted to give it to someone else. Abbo has all the same petulance as mags. Burrow might not even get in the team if Lilly keeps developing the way he is. Ward is out for half the season, same with JJB. And cuthbo, the great man he is Has only been at the club a year. posting.php?mode=quote&f=17&p=18266676# Mags captain with cuthbo/JJB/ward/Zak leadership team around him.'" A fair assessment. I would have considered Burrow as a potential better captain, but as you say he is not as likely to actually be on the field. At best he will continue in the 'super-sub' role.

These traits of Mags' have been pointed out before i think he's a sound enough captain when we are winning and playing well with momentum but when it gets into a grind starts going wrong and we are behind/getting outplayed i don't think he's got the character to lead from the front and pointed it out last year.
Whatever we think on here it's his to lose although personally i'd go with Cuthbo/Zak then give it to Ward longer term in a year or 2.

I would say it has to be McGuire on the basis on not too many with the credibility or availability to do it this year.
JJB and Ward will missa fair slice of games. Abblet does not seem vocal enough and Zak over McGuire would see a dummy spit somewhere along the way.
I also thin IF Sutcliffe makes it as a 6 that Lilley will replace McGuire in 2017 anyway and Zak or Ward will take over the armband.

Short term - either McGuire or JJB until they retire.

Long term - either Sutcliffe or Ward. Both seem level headed and would be good replacement for Sinfield in my opinion.

I've not seen anything from Ablett to suggest he's the best candidate for captain. That's not a criticism of him. Not everyone is.
As for Hardaker, maybe in the future but he'll have to mature a lot and show different aspects to his personality than he is now. In fact he'd be pretty much last on my list of major players id want as captain at the moment. Again, not necessarily a criticism, the team needs different types of players in different roles.

Good assessment and conclusions. I would add Lilley to the future contenders list.

I agree with most of what you say. My only comment would be that as jjb is injured and is possibly in his last year I wouldn't think of him as an option.

That being the case all roads lead to mags in the short term.

Your captain needs to be someone the team can turn to for inspiration when they're in a bit of a hole.

No disrespect intended to Danny McGuire, but that really isn't him.

The penalty given away for the late hit on Miller epitomised everything that's wrong with his game when the team are struggling. He gets frustrated, gets out of his game and goes looking for confrontation either with opponents or officials.

He's got the job effectively by default. Three members of the senior player group all going at once, injuries and indiscretions of others have ruled them out of the running. He's one of the few senior players who will be on the field for 80 minutes in most games.

I agree which is partly why I suggested JJB. Though I'd also I think it helps having a captain who is on the pitch a lot, something which might not be the case for JJB.
Other people have floated the idea of Ablett, Cuthbertson or Hardaker. I don't think Ablett has the "inspiration" aspect nor do I think he'd make a good captain. Hardaker it's way too early for. He needs to concentrate on himself and his own game and ensure his own attitudes are the correct ones. And at the moment I don't think he'd make a good captain. Cuthbertson's a maybe from me. He'll be on the pitch a lot but not all the time. He seems to have "bought in" to the club but things can change with overseas players especially.
In the end a lot will depend on how the candidates act and interact with the other players off the pitch. That was a big aspect to both Sinfield & Peacock gaining the respect of the other players.

Unfortunately we aren't going to immediately find another Sinfield, so we've got to go with the best of what we have.
Though whoever gets the job is still going to require the support of other leaders in the squad such as JJB, hopefully the likes of Cuthbertson can fill some of the leadership role of Peacock too.

Is McGuire set to be the Cummins of this era?

In what way?

I don't think anyone is questioning McGuire's place in the side in the way that Franny's was on many occasions, but I think there are certainly parallels in terms of their suitability to be captain.

But not all inspiration is in the same form. There are plenty of moments you can pick out over his career when he has stepped up and inspired when needed.

Personally I think if Ward was fit for the start of the season he may well have got the gig.