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| For Senior im not sure, Watkins possibly.
For Peacock Im guessing one of these lads we have brought in for next season, Amor et al.
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| Quote ="Luke C"For Senior im not sure, Watkins possibly.'"
Or Coady ?
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"Or Coady ?
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Potentially but I don't see Coady or Amor matching the level Senior and Peacock were at.
If I were Leeds I'd be more concerned with what is coming through at half back. Burrow was extremely quiet last year and seems to be struggling terribly with his shins.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Potentially but I don't see Coady or Amor matching the level Senior and Peacock were at.
If I were Leeds I'd be more concerned with what is coming through at half back. Burrow was extremely quiet last year and seems to be struggling terribly with his shins.'"
Good point about Beep Beep.It would be nice to know who is our next scrum half in waiting.
(oh,and by the way,OBSESSED!!!)
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| Quote ="Saddened!" Burrow was extremely quiet last year and seems to be struggling terribly with his shins.'"
Eh. Where has this come from?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Eh. Where has this come from?'"
Shins is an accronym. Scrum Half something something
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| Quote ="J O N N Y"Shins is an accronym. Scrum Half something something'"
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| Quote ="Saddened!"
If I were Leeds I'd be more concerned with what is coming through at half back. Burrow was extremely quiet last year and seems to be struggling terribly with his shins.'" You've made that up. Both bits of it.
Burrow finished the season in fine form culminating in a terrific GF performance. He's 26/27(?) and I doubt Leeds will make the mistake that GB have of discarding him too early.
He will be Leeds scrum half for 4 or 5 more years.
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| Quote ="Saddened!" If I were Leeds I'd be more concerned with what is coming through at half back. Burrow was extremely quiet last year and seems to be struggling terribly with his shins.'"
What's that statement based on?
Our halfbacks are 26 & 27 respectively, if we had a bolter for these positions coming through now it would be really hard to keep hold of him/them. That would make life interesting for the management & coaches.
It will be different (injuries permitting) in 3 or so years time and before that for No 13.
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| Quote ="G1"You've made that up. Both bits of it.
Burrow finished the season in fine form culminating in a terrific GF performance. He's 26/27(?) and I doubt Leeds will make the mistake that GB have of discarding him too early.
He will be Leeds scrum half for 4 or 5 more years.'"
Ooops. It was in fact McGuire that has missed games in 3 of the last four years because of shin splints according to Google. But being a midget has got to hurt Burrow.
Both players thrive on their pace and they look a yard slower already. Proof is Paul Wellens giving McGuire a 10 metre head start and catching him after 20 metres.
Both will be working for Sky by 30. I'll bet £10 on it now. Feel free to PM me when they turn 30 and are both in the Leeds starting lineup.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Ooops. It was in fact McGuire that has missed games in 3 of the last four years because of shin splints according to Google. But being a midget has got to hurt Burrow.
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Yes because being shorter than the average rugby league player really hurt the careers of Roger Millward and Alfie Langer. Just imagine how good they could have been.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"
If I were Leeds I'd be more concerned with what is coming through at half back. Burrow was extremely quiet last year and seems to be struggling terribly with his shins.'"
burrow will be fine mate and for quite some time too!
whilst your feeling all concerned about half backs that were extremely quiet last season i'd keep an eye out for that leon chappie,
if you can find him that is
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| Back on subject.
As both players are "marque" players in the squad, I reckon one or possibly both will be replaced from outside the club currently.
I expect Burgess to leave at the end of his contract to go to Australia with his brother. Hope I am wrong because he will be a very good player.
Amor at the moment would seem the most natural player to follow the path that Peacock did.
But you have to remember that when Peacock goes in a couple of years, we will have most likely also lost Senior, Kylie, Ali, and Buderus. With Sinfield, JJB, and Kirke all approaching their last contracts.
The club will need a couple of cornerstones in the team to continue to build the side around.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Potentially but I don't see Coady or Amor matching the level Senior and Peacock were at.'"
It's a pretty high standard were using so there's no right to expect them to.
However, arguably Amor is ahead of Peacock at the same stage of his career -wasn't JP was returning from his infamous spell at Wollongong Uni!
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| We have turned out SL half backs like Murrell & Tansey but they are not gonna stick around waiting for Mcguuire & Burrow to move on/retire.
We should get another 5/6 years out of them yet so It's not an immediate problem.
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| Quote ="Vic Mackey"It's a pretty high standard were using so there's no right to expect them to.
However, arguably Amor is ahead of Peacock at the same stage of his career -wasn't JP was returning from his infamous spell at Wollongong Uni!'" It's up to the current incumbents to raise themselves to Senior and Peacocks level with the likes of Coady and Amor raising themselves to the level of the current incumbents.
Thisd mrans that Delaney and the likes of Bailey, Burgess, Kirke, JJB and Leuluai (if he's still there) need to up there performances with Watkins, Coady and Amor developing as the steady players that currently support our star players.
We cannot expect Watkins, Coady and Amor to be the instant replacements, they are our development potential.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"But you have to remember that when Peacock goes in a couple of years, we will have most likely also lost ......... Buderus. '" Will we have noticed?
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| Staying serious...all our great youngsters Sinfield, Diskin, Burrow, McGuire are really about to hit their prime - we could be in for a sublime couple of years (yes and we have already had a not bad last 5 or 6 years already)
I can see the potential replacements in place for Peacock and Senior.
Should we/ are we grooming some 15/16 year old kids ready to take the place of Burrow and McGuire - is there anybody out there?
Crazy that Tony Smith (a coach I think is generally very good but who has struggled with player underperformance these last couple of tournaments so far) has discarded Burrow. Great news for us next season though a fully refreshed and recharged Rob will be one hell of an assett
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| I know that young Ryan Gaunt is highly thought of within the club so IF he lives up to his potential then he could be Burrow's heir apparent.
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| Shame for Gareth Moore he arrived on the scene maybe a couple of years too early to make a go of it at Leeds.
Looked very composed and organised in awful conditions for Scotland at the weekend.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Shame for Gareth Moore he arrived on the scene maybe a couple of years too early to make a go of it at Leeds.
Looked very composed and organised in awful conditions for Scotland at the weekend.'"
John bastien really rated him when he broke through from the u18's to the u21's aswell!
I guess he didn't quite live up to his potential and maybe some time in the lower leagues will see him improve enough to get back in SL.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"Or Coady ?
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will she count on the overseas quota?
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I know that young Ryan Gaunt is highly thought of within the club so IF he lives up to his potential then he could be Burrow's heir apparent.'"
He's left the club mate, signed for the Bulls.
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| Quote ="Glenn Quagmire"He's left the club mate, signed for the Bulls.'"
I guess that's the problem when you see your pathwayto 1st team football blocked for 3-5 years.
cf Sean Long at Wigan & Lee Briers at Saints early in their careers.
Not that I know if Gaunt can be as good (relatively) as either of those but they were examples that came to mind. I'm sure there are others.
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