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| Why don't we just stop this thread now. I know from a reliable source that Brierly is not signing with Leeds this season next season or ever. End off.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Which is from a reliable source as previously stated thank you very much, just ask St Pete, Gotcha etc..'"
Your "horses mouth" source was so reliable you bet your house on his story and lost!
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| Yet I haven't lost anything ?
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| Quote ="Frosties."Which is from a reliable source.'"
He wasn't very reliable though was he.
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| Is anybody actually gonna be disappointed if we don't sign brierley as seems likely? i would say its a relief, don't think he will be able to cut it at the top level of SL.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Let's not beat about the bush - if Brierley was as good as some on here seem to think he is, a SL club would have made Leigh an offer that even Beaumont couldn't refuse before now.
He's come to prominence as a support player in a dominant full-time side in a predominantly part-time league, with plenty of space to be flash in because his forward pack are intimidating all and sundry in front of him. Noticeably in the Super 8s he found plenty of holes to hide in when those around him weren't bossing games against better sides.
If signing Brierley means either Sutcliffe or Lilley gets shifted out of the team (or shunted to another position that doesn't suit their game) then it's a piece of short term thinking that I thought the club had grown out of by now. If he doesn't come to Leeds, I won't be complaining that we've somehow missed out on a superstar.'"
Share these concerns. Looked great when Leigh were flying but did not see much contribution when middle 8's were on. I am not convinced Lilley will be a long term answer but he has kept grafting and showing up and showed a lot of character last night.
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| In terms of Leigh's Middle 8 performance last year. It says a lot more about Leigh than it does Brierley. I think naively they thought they could keep the same style and win instead of realising they needed to adapt to the different level of opposition.....given that would other HB's have excelled with that approach Leigh took? And given a different /team/coach/league/approach would Brierley improve as a player?
Just because Leigh usually stroll past opposition and took a naive approach to the Middle 8's doesn't mean a player couldn't perform in the SL under different circumstances.
BTW Not saying Brierley would be a success if he came.....just sounds rather naive and simplistic to say he won't make it because of Leigh's results as a team in those Middle 8 games.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"In terms of Leigh's Middle 8 performance last year. It says a lot more about Leigh than it does Brierley. I think naively they thought they could keep the same style and win instead of realising they needed to adapt to the different level of opposition.....given that would other HB's have excelled with that approach Leigh took? And given a different /team/coach/league/approach would Brierley improve as a player?
Just because Leigh usually stroll past opposition and took a naive approach to the Middle 8's doesn't mean a player couldn't perform in the SL under different circumstances.
BTW Not saying Brierley would be a success if he came.....just sounds rather naive and simplistic to say he won't make it because of Leigh's results as a team in those Middle 8 games.'"
Fair enough. Be interesting to see if he gets an SL chance somewhere
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"He wasn't very reliable though was he.'"
Yes, you obviously didn't read the messages after that did you. HTH.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Yet I haven't lost anything ?'"
So when you said you would bet your house on it... you didn't really mean it? Not that I blame you as your original prediction based on the "horse's mouth" proved to be wrong. So why believe it now? Are you not sceptical of the latest reliable version which has Brierley now a Leeds player out on loan back at Leigh!!
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"So when you said you would bet your house on it... you didn't really mean it? Not that I blame you as your original prediction based on the "horse's mouth" proved to be wrong. So why believe it now? Are you not sceptical of the latest reliable version which has Brierley now a Leeds player out on loan back at Leigh!!'"
Nope not one bit and you'll see that I am sure.
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"Fair enough. Be interesting to see if he gets an SL chance somewhere'"
Think it's inevitable that he'll get a SL gig. We were obviously interested in him but I wonder if the emergence of Lilley and the unexpected addition of Ferres to our salary cap has changed things from our perspective.
Ferres and Falloon are only one year deals so extensions (or a new hooker potentially) have to be factored into the 2017 wage bill.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Yes, you obviously didn't read the messages after that did you. HTH.'"
I read that you said he was definatley coming to Leeds if Leigh didn't get promoted.....after that it was just the usual excuses as to why it didn't happen.
Answer this, why would Leeds change the deal knowing Sutcliffe was a serious doubt to be ready for the 2016 season and agree a deal that could see Brierley sit on the sidelines not playing for the best part of the year with Leigh opting for a different HB combo had Chase not already messed up?
It made no sense and was obviously nonsense. I'm sure if he does eventually come to Leeds you'll change your story to the one that actually happens and claim you were right all along even though it'll have been the 3rd different version of events from a reliable source.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"I read that you said he was definatley coming to Leeds if Leigh didn't get promoted.....after that it was just the usual excuses as to why it didn't happen.
Answer this, why would Leeds change the deal knowing Sutcliffe was a serious doubt to be ready for the 2016 season and agree a deal that could see Brierley sit on the sidelines not playing for the best part of the year with Leigh opting for a different HB combo had Chase not already messed up?
It made no sense and was obviously nonsense. I'm sure if he does eventually come to Leeds you'll change your story to the one that actually happens and claim you were right all along even though it'll have been the 3rd different version of events from a reliable source.'"
Funny when the source is the man himself then aye. Just ask a few on the board like I say..
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| Quote ="Frosties."Funny when the source is the man himself then aye. Just ask a few on the board like I say..'"
So if you talk to the man himself he must've told you why Leeds changed the deal from getting him if Leigh didn't get promoted to a loan deal instead for 2016?
Do share the reason, considering Sutcliffe was sidelined with a serious knee injury.
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| Unless Frosties is getting trolled by Brierley himself he'll be a Rhino in 2017 if he isn't so what?
Frosties is only passing on info he's received/heard or being told it's highly amusing that anyone makes such a big deal out of it or play down his past tips that proved correct.
WRT the deal for him coming collapsing after Leigh failed to get promoted that's down to Beaumont and Leigh again these things happen why is such a big deal?
Onto the player personally i think he'd be a decent signing once settled in but time will tell.
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| What was all that nonsense about him having signed for Leeds and we loaned him back to Leigh. Are we now loaning him to Bradford?
It could be that Leeds have agreed a first option for him in 2017 but it does rather sound that both he and his agent cannot be trusted as they appear to be leaking different stories all over the place.
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| [del[/delGood evening Rhinos' fans.
Having watched Ryan develop over the past three years at Leigh, the lad does have some excellent qualities. He has outstanding pace, an eye for the half chance, and is (has been? ) a great lad, who has always been willing to learn,a nd to engage with the fans - especially the youngsters.
I believe he has earned a crack at Super League, through his excellent performances in the Championship. However, the problem for me is one of where would he fit into a SL team? He is definitely not (up to now) a playmaker. He is an opportunist, who is devastating at backing up, seizing interceptions etc, but has not yet been able to step up to the mark and dictate play. That may be because he has been operating alongside Martyn Ridyard, who is an outstanding playmaker - who, incidentally was injured for most of the Qualifiers, thus exposing Ryan to full responsibility at half back. Ryan wasn't the only one in our team who disappointed at the end of the season.
Apparently, Huddersfield had been considering Ryan for next season - suggesting he probably isn't yet a Rhinos player - as a full back. Other prominent critics consider that is where he would possibly be effective in SL. It's a position that would afford him opportunity and space, to showcase his qualities - but I can't think that you would be looking to him as a replacement for Zak Hardaker!
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| [del[/delGood evening Rhinos' fans.
Having watched Ryan develop over the past three years at Leigh, the lad does have some excellent qualities. He has outstanding pace, an eye for the half chance, and is (has been? ) a great lad, who has always been willing to learn,a nd to engage with the fans - especially the youngsters.
I believe he has earned a crack at Super League, through his excellent performances in the Championship. However, the problem for me is one of where would he fit into a SL team? He is definitely not (up to now) a playmaker. He is an opportunist, who is devastating at backing up, seizing interceptions etc, but has not yet been able to step up to the mark and dictate play. That may be because he has been operating alongside Martyn Ridyard, who is an outstanding playmaker - who, incidentally was injured for most of the Qualifiers, thus exposing Ryan to full responsibility at half back. Ryan wasn't the only one in our team who disappointed at the end of the season. Yesterday, we witnessed more in the way of play making, from young Lewis Charnock, (on loan from Saints) than we have in the last three games from Ryan. That's not meant to knock Ryan - it's just where he currently is in his development.
Apparently, Huddersfield had been considering Ryan for next season - suggesting he probably isn't yet a Rhinos player - as a full back. Other prominent critics consider that is where he would possibly be effective in SL. It's a position that would afford him opportunity and space, to showcase his qualities - but I can't think that you would be looking to him as a replacement for Zak Hardaker! [del[/del
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"What was all that nonsense about him having signed for Leeds and we loaned him back to Leigh. Are we now loaning him to Bradford?
It could be that Leeds have agreed a first option for him in 2017 but it does rather sound that both he and his agent cannot be trusted as they appear to be leaking different stories all over the place.'"
I don't know Brierley or Harrison (his agent) but Brierley comes across as a champion bloke and Harrison is as down to earth and as honest as they come.
I don't know Frosties but it's obvious he passed on was said to him.
I still think Brierley is gonna be a Leeds player. Time will tell. I hope he does.
The possibilities for Brierley as an impact player of the bench, a half back or as a Daz Clark
style hooker are great. 6.1" lighting quick, great attitude.
Not sure if people know his Hero is Danny Mags and it's his dream to play along side him. Harrison is Mags agent too.
For me Brierley to Leeds is a no brainer.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"It does rather sound that both he and his agent cannot be trusted as they appear to be leaking different stories all over the place.'"
Brierley on the radio today saying he didn't hand his notice in.....erm Ryan you realised this statement two days ago
Brierley continued: “I will not give in-depth reasons as to why I gave my month’s notice at the club, but I have not spoken to any other club and I could potentially be without a job on April 1st.
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| Decent lad shame about the agent.
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| Alan who is I believe a Leigh has hit the nail on the head, Brierley just isn't a SL halfback, he doesn't play at the line & shoots out in defence causing his edge players massive problems.
In the middle's he was hugely found out as Ridyard was one of a string of Leigh players needing ops & he couldn't step upto the plate.
He is always surrounded by drama and it appears he has proved what most Leigh fans were suspecting which was he & his agent are leaking his own info to extra money.
He has ultimately made himself look very stupid & selfish with his lies and clubs will now need to way up the drama that goes with him.
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| Quote ="Johnny Headline"Alan who is I believe a Leigh has hit the nail on the head, Brierley just isn't a SL halfback, he doesn't play at the line & shoots out in defence causing his edge players massive problems.
In the middle's he was hugely found out as Ridyard was one of a string of Leigh players needing ops & he couldn't step upto the plate.
He is always surrounded by drama and it appears he has proved what most Leigh fans were suspecting which was he & his agent are leaking his own info to extra money.
He has ultimately made himself look very stupid & selfish with his lies and clubs will now need to way up the drama that goes with him.'"
Hi Johnny, yes I'm a Leigh fan - although I hasten to add that I'm not one of the "we'll win every league game, plus the Challenge Cup" brigade!
Don't get me wrong about Ryan - I think he deserves a crack at SL, from his achievements to date, in the Championship. I just don't think it will work for him at half back. That said, he has listened, learned and progressed a lot at Leigh, and Leeds do have an excellent record of developing young players - albeit maybe younger than Ryan is now.
As for the current goings on, I'm surprised that/if Ryan is 'behaving badly'. I always found him a great young man, who would often go the extra mile for supporters, kids and disadvantaged people, often at his own expense. It could be that his agent is pulling the strings, or that Ryan is believing his own publicity. One thing's for sure - he's been publicly linked with over half the teams in SL, these past two years, and seems to get even more publicity than the top SL stars!
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| Let me put you all out of your misery. Everything with Ryan and Leeds was agreed last week. That i know for a fact. The outcome however, contract signings, loan deals etc i do not now.
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