I just think a lot of fans are getting frustrated with how many players seem in and out of the team on long bans,injuries or etc as soon as they get back on the pitch.
Especially players who have had it repeatedly .

No injured player should get abuse,of course not. But that frustration will be aimed somewhere and some targets are easier than others.

We took fusi when he had hardly played in two years. Fairly obvious he isn’t the kind of player who can play with a knock. That is just how some players are built.
We should support him, not say right go back to Aus. What sort of message does that send

We were poor last night and only lost by 8 points.
KR are a very average side so are we.
We`ve had 3 decent halves in 14 which clearly isn`t good enough.
2 halfbacks who occasionally play well but by and large are invisible.
Forwards who should (on paper) e good enough to bully a lot of teams but don`t.
A hooker who for me is a great back up hooker but we need better.
And I totally agree with the poster saying Newman, Austin and Bentley need to stop arguing with the ref and blaming other players when things don`t go right and start putting their money where their mouth is.
Newman is or could be an exceptional talent but needs to stop listening to his own hype and get on with showing what he can do.
Olpherts, Hooley and Roberts nowhere good enough yet like I`ve said before.
I reckon MacDonald will play wing with Martin and Newman centre and maybe give Tindall the other spot on the wing against Huddersfield.

Myler, Tindall, Newman, Martin, MacDonald for back 5 and Holroyd, O’Connor, Oledski, Tetevano, McDonnell, Smith for me. Sangare, Walters, Lisone, Johnson bench.

not sure the half backs can do anything when the forwards are so passive or beaten. 2nd half v cats when the pack dominated they looked good enough

I’m not sure our pack was dominated against HKR; the backs kept making silly errors and sacrificing the field position.

Holroyd, Smith have been in good form all year and we have four decent props on rotation for the first time in lots of years…

We need to get Tet wider where he is much more effective and I think we’re okay up front. When we let him go we might want a decent hooker or maybe one more very direct second row.

The pack wasn’t dominated last night

People keep making lame excuses.

We get thrashed at Warrington at the best of times

Even our great teams got beat at Hull KR

Even our great teams lost at Cas, it’s a derby.

Hull was close, it could have gone either way.

It was wet and windy, we had injuries.

It’s a process….blah blah blah. All this is in first 2 months of the season.

Why is Smith on a downward trajectory compared to last season despite apparently getting rid of some dead wood and bringing his own players in?

Remember in 2019- it’s a 5 year transition
2020- it’s a 5 year transition, starting from now
2021 - actually it starts now
2022 - no now.

Let me guess, Smith needs to clear out loads of dead wood and it’ll probably take a few years to get cooking? Yeah I thought.

Let’s just call it a 30-year transition and wait for another golden generation, if the game isn’t dead by then.

Smith had his hands tied regarding new signings for this year, and has tried to add some depth in key positions. I’m relatively happy with Sangare and McDonnell and MacDonald.

Yes there is more dead wood and I’ve posted before I’d not f about and I’d ring the changes. This could be done for next season as various contracts come to an end.

We now have O’Connor, Holroyd, Gannon, Walters starting to cement themselves as first grade players and Johnson, Simpson, Sinfield not too far behind so yes the prospects of a new home-grown generation look good.

There are a number of other good players coming through the academy. We had bad luck with Walker, and a few other young prospects haven’t developed as we wanted but I honestly feel we are only a FB and SO away from being a very decent side now.

Totally agree the club have spaffed 3-4 years on really poor signings and just got the rebuild completely wrong. However there are genuine reasons to be positive now - IF we can get rid of excess salary cap and invest it in the correct areas.

And why do you seem to dismiss the "excuses" and lay all the blame with Smith? Your anti Smith agenda is laughable

It's not just laughable it's sad that there is obviously so much pleasure taken in these rants. It's all about being seen to be right, rather than actually supporting the club or even the sport. To say anything remotely positive would not support this doomsday logic, so if we win it all goes quiet.

Pathetic

It wasn’t dominated, but we did concede ground too easily.

The spine is the main issue in terms of players, and Smith couldn't replace them last off-season. I'm fine with O'Connor/Johnson moving forward, but 1,6 and 7 are such key positions and even on paper its hard to argue Myler, Austin and Sezer are top 4 as a group. Huge decisions coming up for next year, but we won't/can't replace all three.

We do give up way too much ground each defensive set for my liking. Even in that supposed great second half v Cats we gave up huge yards right up the middle pretty much every set. A few times we made the first couple of tackles OK but then a regulation play would see them make 15 yards and get a quick PTB, leading to more easy yards. Although Smith doesn't seem too worried by this defensive softness I don't like it. RL's all about possession and position. Drop the ball a lot and you'll generally lose. Play in your own half a lot and ditto.

We do look like we have a lot of strike, and a willingness to move the ball around. When the weather clears up a bit we'll probably look a much better team more often. But we need a more solid Plan B for nights like Friday.

It's this kind of posting that causes bad blood from rival fans and quite childish.

Thought you looked really poor in the friendly at our place earlier this year. Don’t read much into them so took it with a pinch of salt, however don’t think you’ve looked great these opening 7 rounds either (second half catalan apart). As you showed last year, there’s still plenty of time to turn it around though. Must say as an outsider I really don’t like Rohan Smith. His chopping and changing on and off the field comes across arrogant as anything, and a lot of the time seems like he’s trying to be different for the sake of it. I’m sure with Mik coming back and Newman on the pitch you’ll pick up again though, however I do think you look a mid table side at best this year.

Think a bit of respect has to be paid to Rovers. Abdull has now played 4 games and 10 mins of Catalan before he went off injured, he’ll be on 12 MOS points after this week. Previous posts comparing our spines, I’d probably take Oledski, Newman, Smith and Martin from the Leeds team and that’s it. Maybe macdonald at a push. I think the weather played a big factor in the score line not being as big as it should have been. You could hardly make yards all night. Willie Peters is building something special at Rovers at the minute, but it continues to be going under the radar. I don’t mind it that way in fairness.

Won’t be under the radar much longer with your postings!

Good post mate. Agree with you.
I get that comparing players is completely subjective and pretty pointless.
But the point I was trying to make is about the difference in current performance level.
If we forget about the result/performance on Friday, forget current form and forget the last 7 games.
At the beginning of the season if we'd asked how many of that starting HKR 17 would I take in the Leeds starting 17.
For me it would have been 2 - Abdul and Coote.
You could probably make an argument for 3 or 4.
So my point is, and the problem is - Leeds are underperforming.
HKR are performing very well - and good luck to you!

You could make an argument for 17 based on Friday. But next week might be 2-3 if we pay well vs Hudds. That’s sport…..

Matt Shaw has it right about our inconsistency - the gap between the best and worst of some of our players is way too big. I think part of that comes down to lack of leaders in key positions, so when we aren't playing well everyone is waiting for someone else to make something happen. The worst offender for this has to be Sezer, who seems to be the invisible man whenever we need someone to drag the team with them.

Sezer is quiet and I always like gobby halves. But he get stick for games like Friday and Cas away but can he do much when we don’t have 1 PTB in their 20 in a whole half? And not many in the second , where he kicks for 2 tries. He spent most of the gaming defending and stopped Linnett, who is a real threat really well.

Croft, Williams and lomax don’t do much game changing stuff in their own 20.

I agree about we need a real leader

Correct Shabs, that's why I said ignore the last 7 games.
And as always with sport, if we play well and beat Hudds next week, all is forgotten.
Until we get beat by Hull again the following week....

I’ll retire as ac fan if we loose again vs this Hull team!

we did a few weeks back....

Yeah but have you seen what’s happened since then!