From what I saw, it was a cracking rugby match, which we narrowly lost in the final seconds. Fair play to Les Frogs for that final effort.

It was also heartening to see the overall team effort, with some really good individual performances from McQuire, Buderus, Webb, Hall and Peacock.

Although I do share the concerns about the workload that Peacock is being asked to carry, I thought that Kylie had his best game for a while.

Nils Desperandum people.

Difficult to assess the game from highlights, so can't wait for reports from those who were actually there.

It seems like discipline and giving away needless penalties keeps biting us. And we still seem to struggle during the first 20 or so minutes of the second half.

Still work to be done before October, but I'm not panicking at the moment.
BAsed on the highlights Catalans certainly deserved their win.

If poeple on here can't see the lack of ability in our current coach they truly are s of the highest order!!

And Loz if you think the GF last season was due to tactical nouce of the current encumbnent then you are deluded, give me TS any day of the week.

Warrington will do is in the play offs on current form due to the fact they actually have a pack that goes forward, where is Leeds go forward?

PS

Snake Eater, your credibility is already nill on any site so go and play with yourself somewhere else.

Ricky Bibey's a CC winner. Does that make him good? Didn't think so.

Burgess still has time to develope and I believe he will but he's getting a bit too much game time at the moment and has made a few howling errors because he isn't quite ready for week in week out SL yet. Bailey & Kirke should be hitting their prime but aren't. Alays thoguht kirke was good value for money but barring then first 5 or so games this season he has done very little. Baileys there to 'rattle a few cages' Barrie Mac likes to say and it is effective but not always.

I'm also fed up of sticking up for Ablett. He guy really is a donkey. Makes plenty of tackles but apart from that he is nothing and I doubt he ever will be.

I disagree here, the game plan in last year's grand final was perfect for the conditions.

Obviously.
Richie you really are showing yourself up here to know not a lot about the beautiful game.

I'm willing to wait til the end of the season before I start criticising. Remember that the league has become alot more competitive all round this season, and in previous title winning seasons ('04 apart) we've come unstuck far worse than yesterday.

That 2004 side and the 2003 Bradford side would win this league at a canter. Could we not make the argument that the league has got worse rather than better?

I don't think it's a matter of the league getting worse. I believe Celtic aside everyone has improved a lot except the front runners (Saints & Leeds squads now don't touch Bradford, Saints & Leeds squads of the past)
and those 3 are the only teams I'd say have fallen a tad.

Who's Scotty playing for on Friday ??

Oh for some decent education !!

I think you could make the arguement that the top 3 or 4 (so called big 4) have gone backwards, but IMO the standard of the competition has gone upwards. Teams like Cas, Hull KR, Huddersfield and Quins are all highly competitive and could beat anyone on their day. The salary cap has bitten for the bigger teams, who have to release some of their younder players as they progress, and therefore comand more money (Scruton etc) and this evens up the competition.
11 Different teams are represented in the England squad, and I think that this can only be a good thing for the competition.

I'll be interested to see how many teams are represented by the time the 4 nations comes around. Something tells me that it won't be that many.

So now you realise that Ryan Bailey is tottaly useless ?

He isn't completely useless. He's fantastic at winding up the opposition and sending them off course tactically. Apart from that I agree.

He's done pretty well in the last 2 grand finals.

I'm happy to have selected Ryan Bailey for 3 Grand Finals and Ian Kirke and Carl Ablett for one each.

Yours,

Tony Smith.

I'm happy to have selected Ryan Bailey, Carl Ablett and Ian Kirke for a Grand Final winning side.

Yours,

Brian Mclennan.


I'm also happy to have selected Ryan Bailey for 4 GB caps.

Yours,

Brian Noble.


However, you know better and they're 'Average at best' eh Bobbie?

You should be a coach - you evidently know better than those three muppets. I mean what have they ever achieved?

You'd be pretty tight if you blamed him for that.

A winger, with no protection, is unlikely to outjump an on running player from being stood still. If the attacking player times his jump well enough there's nothing much you can do in those circumstances.

And this is our coach who made the Aussies look very very VERY silly a few years back


This guy won us the League last season on his first attempt in Super League, not many coaches can say that.

Face it, we got beat by a team who are very good at home, but lets not get in the way of your deluded fe[ic[/iktarded rant at Bluey

Why is it that if you express concern on this board it is immediately taken as critisism?
It isn't passion when we backchat to the ref it is sheer stupidity and Keith seems to be one of the worst culprits - one of our experienced players who should know better. Head high shots and around the play the ball area (and I know other teams do this but tbh I'm more concerned with Leeds discipline) we are currently giving away far too many penalties which is resulting in putting ourselves under extra pressure and, whether it is deemed to be critisism or not of Bluey, he should be sorting this out.

In a one off game.



and?

I agree have we been on the right side of a penalty count this season?

Evidence Please?

STFU up with that. Only a tw@ apes Lenny the Loiner.

A Saints fan came on here and had a go at one of our players knowing he is in no means of return so just defending him evidence is no problem if its 100 per cent true.