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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Faith is all you need. It doesn't matter how good you think you are, works cannot save you. Why? Grace can never be earned. You cannot earn your place in Heaven. Mercy only comes through faith alone. Therefore, anything we do in the area of religious works are not good deeds but attempts to bribe the judge of the universe. God will not be bribed.
This is what scripture tells us. Try reading John of the Pauline Epistles.
In reference to Matthew 25:31-46, this does not worry me as I believe that when one is born again such fruit is borne. I do however maintain that such good works have absolutely no bearing on salvation, for the reasons given above. We are still men, we are still fallible, we are still dripping in sin.'"
So basically there's no point being nice to each other. So long as we have faith, we can do pretty much whatever we want?
*goes out to covet some neighbours' wives*
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| Kirkstaller says Mohammed was a false prophet and he is probably right,but maybe Judas Iscariat had the same thought about Jesus to
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Faith is all you need. It doesn't matter how good you think you are, works cannot save you. Why? Grace can never be earned. You cannot earn your place in Heaven. Mercy only comes through faith alone. Therefore, anything we do in the area of religious works are not good deeds but attempts to bribe the judge of the universe. God will not be bribed.
This is what scripture tells us. Try reading John of the Pauline Epistles.
In reference to Matthew 25:31-46, this does not worry me as I believe that when one is born again such fruit is borne. I do however maintain that such good works have absolutely no bearing on salvation, for the reasons given above. We are still men, we are still fallible, we are still dripping in sin.'"
So basically, it's only what you can be bothered doing. I think Matthew 25:31-46 describes precisely what is wrong with what you just said! Let's face it, you are a goat that thinks it should be a sheep because it pays lip service. How about you practice what you preach! The term "What Would Jesus Do" isn't supposed to be rhetorical.
I just hope you are not in a position that teaches children about Christianity.
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| Quote ="West Leeds Rhino"The term "What Would Jesus Do" isn't supposed to be rhetorical.
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It should probably have a question mark then.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"It should probably have a question mark then.
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And I would've gotten away with it...
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Faith is all you need. It doesn't matter how good you think you are, works cannot save you. Why? Grace can never be earned. You cannot earn your place in Heaven. Mercy only comes through faith alone. Therefore, anything we do in the area of religious works are not good deeds but attempts to bribe the judge of the universe. God will not be bribed.'"
What an unpleasant god you bow down to. I think I will choose a different one if that's alright with you.
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| Quote ="tigertot"What an unpleasant god you bow down to. I think I will choose a different one if that's alright with you.'"
Mine mine please...I implore you. My god is better than anybody else's god: believe me.
We're just finishing throwing a few scriptures together and chucking out others we don't like......we're then just going to wait for a king to endorse it and update it a bit here and there before publishing it in its finite version (hopefully without too many mis-translations).
We're going to get people to accept it without question as being our god's given word.
Join us: you know it makes sense. Only we will be rewarded with heaven; everybody else can go to hell even if they haven't heard of him. Others will be condemned despite being pretty good people as they have devoted themselves to other false gods despite them often not really having much choice. They're actually our god's mates all having a laugh with the stupid misguided twerps.....it's up to them to realise.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Faith is all you need. '"
No it's not!
There's nothing you can do that can't be done.
Nothing you can sing that can't be sung.
Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game
It's easy.
There's nothing you can make that can't be made.
No one you can save that can't be saved.
Nothing you can do but you can learn how to be you
in time - It's easy.
All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
Try reading John =#808080Lennon of the Paul =#808080 McCartneyine Epistles.
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| Can we get the Archbishop of Canterbury to sign on as a moderator?
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Can we get the Archbishop of Canterbury to sign on as a moderator?'"
Him and his successor, currently residing in York.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Him and his successor, currently residing in York.'"
I sincerely hope you're right. John Sentamu is a class act.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I sincerely hope you're right. John Sentamu is a class act.'"
He shares a lot of qualities with our kirkstaller based on his opinion piece in the Guardian last week, a piece which sought to justify his stance against allowing equality to spread to everyone on the basis of straw man arguments and non-sequiturs.
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| Quote ="John_D"Quote ="Hessle Roader"I sincerely hope you're right. John Sentamu is a class act.'"
He shares a lot of qualities with our kirkstaller based on his opinion piece in the Guardian last week, a piece which sought to justify his stance against allowing equality to spread to everyone on the basis of straw man arguments and non-sequiturs.'"
Yes, it went along the lines of:
"I know the church has discriminated against homosexuals in the past, but this isn't that. No, no, it's completely different this time. Yes, we're opposing equal rights for a whole group of people based solely on the way those people were born, but we're definitely not discriminating. Honest."
A real class act, if ever there was one.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I sincerely hope you're right. John Sentamu is a class act.'"
Not if you're a supporter for equal rights for ALL.
Get rid of all their [uprivelleges[/u inc guaranteed seats in the house of lords (oh how we christians are persecuted they have the audacity to bleat) I say.....
....that's a piece of constitutional change I would support and endorse.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Yes, it went along the lines of:
"I know the church has discriminated against homosexuals in the past, but this isn't that. No, no, it's completely different this time. Yes, we're opposing equal rights for a whole group of people based solely on the way those people were born, but we're definitely not discriminating. Honest."
A real class act, if ever there was one.'"
And that not allowing the church to be discriminatory was in itself an act of discrimination.
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| Quote ="John_D"And that not allowing the church to be discriminatory was in itself an act of discrimination.'"
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
(CHRISTIANS ARE OPPRESSED)
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| Quote ="tigertot"Him and his successor, currently residing in York.'"
We stay at a campsite in Bishopthorpe where he lives and believe me, it ain't a tiny vicarage. Its called Bishopthorpe [iPalace [/i
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"We stay at a campsite in Bishopthorpe where he lives and believe me, it ain't a tiny vicarage. Its called Bishopthorpe [iPalace [/i
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Are gay couples allowed?
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"We stay at a campsite in Bishopthorpe where he lives and believe me, it ain't a tiny vicarage. Its called Bigotsthorpe [iPalace [/i
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Yes, it went along the lines of:
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A real class act, if ever there was one.'"
No, it went along the same lines as "we may as well allow maternity leave for men and paternity leave for women, seeing as 'equal but different' is not good enough".
Equal is not the same yadda yadda yadda.
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Equal is not the same yadda yadda yadda.'"
Specious rubbish
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| Why is this on a Rugby League Forum? Just saying.....
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| Quote ="Middleton_Loiner"Why is this on a Rugby League Forum? Just saying.....
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Because Kirkstaller is omnipotent, omniscient and above all omnipresent.
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"Because Kirkstaller is omnipotent, omniscient and above all omnipresent.'"
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