thats only my opinion but also my point tad. we all see the game different thats what makes the debate.

each to there own but for me he doesn't do it.

My coments (and Bloodbath's) were specifically in relation to last night's game where I thought he had a good game.

It seems some people will criticise because its' Bailey, regardless of what he actually does on the pitch. That's compelling evidence of fekkwittism.

Take me for example, I have often criticised Smith and Kirke. I have no hesitation in saying how well they played last night because they did. That's compelling evidence of my superiority of most on the fekkwitts on here.

i didn't think he was that good last night but that is to be expected after being out sice the GF.
however it's his form over the last few seasons that worries me.
i want to see him making metres, running over people,knocking ball carriers down.
kirke, peacock,jjb,ali,kylie,burgess all do these things. bailey rarely does

He's been average for years.

It was the usual Bailey performance in my view. The good mixed with the bad. It does seem that he needs to regain some bulk to match his achievements when he first got in the side where he never seemed to be pushed back, always required 2 or 3 opponents to bring him to ground or complete the tackle and always won us more penalties than he costed us.
But the coaching staff MUST see something in him at training and close up in games because we kept him arguably at the expense of Scruton and that would have been based on an all round assessment of their relative merits.
Re JJB, yes he did give away a daft penalty but what he has is pace to get him in the position where he could capitalise on the Wakefield howler from the kick off and he played the full 80 minutes I believe.

Cheap shot Bailey he is nothing but a bully! I have no time for idiots like him.

It's a universal trend.

I like having Ryan Bailey on the sheet. He brings an "edge" to the team.

Granted sometimes he oversteps the mark but he certainly does distract some of the opposition forwards.

Did Tevita Leo Latu tell you to say that inbetween punching Brooke Pennington in the face, breaking her nose in the process?

Or did he perhaps tell you to make a racist remark to Ryan instead?

It's all in Leo Latus repertoire after all.

Yet you champion Atkins? Please.

Successive Grand Final winning coaches and at least one former GB coach saw enough in Ryan Bailey to select him. I guess their opinions are worthless compared to the scion of knowledge that is Southstander.

He's not the player he was back in 2004 when he won a GB cap, he's had the aggression coached out of him over the years.

Looked in aggressive mood against Wakie.

Watched a different game than me then, he couldn't smash my gran!

I am going to try and be nice here.......avoid using the fekkwitt phrase...........we're all entitled to an opinion after all.........must show more tolerance.

Think about what you've typed. Do you really, I mean really, think that Tony Smith and Brian McLennan will have coached him to play with less aggression. Coached it out of him.

Have you ever met or been coached by anyone in RL who has asked you to show less aggression?

I've not personally no, but he must have, he gets softer with every game.

I have an immense dislike for him as a player, he offers nothing except penalties to the other team. He never breaks a tackle, he makes little or no ground, and he never wins a collision to get a quick play the ball. He's utterly worthless.

Quote ="Ari Gold"Watched a different game than me then, he couldn't smash my gran!'" Oh dear, oh dear. It was his first game back, give the lad a break for f*cks sake. Last season his stats are arguebly better than Burgees : www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 and Scrutton: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Do you have any problems with these two? Ask Morley if Bailey can smash or not. Great example from the Feckwitt pool of Rhinos supporters.

Quote ="Ari Gold"Watched a different game than me then, he couldn't smash my gran!'" Oh dear, oh dear. It was his first game back, give the lad a break for f*cks sake. Last season his stats are arguebly better than Burgees : www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 and Scrutton: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Do you have any problems with these two? Ask Morley if Bailey can smash or not. Great example from the Feckwitt pool of Rhinos supporters.

Quote ="thebloodbath"Oh dear, oh dear. It was his first game back, give the lad a break for f*cks sake. Last season his stats are arguebly better than Burgees (www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009) and Scrutton (www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009) Do you have any problems with these two? Ask Morley if Bailey can smash or not. Great example from the Feckwitt pool of Rhinos supporters.'" Funny that, an ex team mate of his told my mate at a function that Bailey is a $hithouse, but hey I suppose you know more than he does.

Quote ="thebloodbath"Oh dear, oh dear. It was his first game back, give the lad a break for f*cks sake. Last season his stats are arguebly better than Burgees (www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009) and Scrutton (www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009) Do you have any problems with these two? Ask Morley if Bailey can smash or not. Great example from the Feckwitt pool of Rhinos supporters.'" Funny that, an ex team mate of his told my mate at a function that Bailey is a $hithouse, but hey I suppose you know more than he does.

Shouldn't bite but what has Latu to do with it.

As it happens I'd have both in my team but perhaps not my circle of friends.
As the saying goes two wrongs don't make a right.

I realise you fancy yourself as a bit of a forum wag and provocater but I have to say that you need to improve to be in the big league.

Like to go further? Like a name?

I'm reporting facts, look them up, for someone who says he does naff all, you know nothing. He makes a hell of a lot of tackles and averages less than a penalty a game, those FACTS differ from your ramblings.

hmmmmm, seems to have been a lot of editing on here!!

Anyone notice how Scrutton got on?

That's that sorted then, I think we can close this thread now.