I agree with this. I've often defended Hardaker as I think what he's done has, at times, been overblown by some people. But, unfortunately, it doesn't appear as if he's become any more professional, which was a must given where we were with him.

It's a shame as he's a very, very good player still with room for improvement, but time to move on I think. And as Sal rightly points out, do it now while we can get some money for him rather than having to sack him at some point in the future.

I'm of the same thinking. At a point you stick with him and hope he's one of those that grows up and matures (Peacock was one who grew up from his early off field days of too much drinking). But after a while you just accept it's not going to happen. After surviving by his fingernails last year and with experienced players retiring it should've been the time he grew up but it clearly hasn't happened.

The penny may drop with him in the future though i highly doubt it but i hope to be proved wrong.I wish him well, but i too wouldn't play him until he has been moved on, his time with us is done imo.I hope he can find a club asap and we can stop talking about him, and plan for the future which is looking more fractured by the day.

IF these rumours regarding Zak are in fact true,especially the ones that he has supposed to have committed since his final warning from the club?

Then i say good riddance to him and lets get shut asap and get some sort of deal for him whilst we can
as he is clearly a cancer (sorry for this terminology) that will surely spread throughout our club and we will be left with a culture that has players thinking that they can do whatever they want,whenever they want

Only one way to go then and that is in a downward spiral and that takes a club a long time to rid itself of that culture, Just ask Warrington

I am all for giving people a second chance but this individual seems to never learn. However my main concern has always been his on-field performance. His game is based on physicality and not classy rugby skills. Yes he has given some outstanding defensive displays and had a purple period of big metres on kick returns. But I do not think he is an intelligent player who has the required basic rugby skills. He seriously lacks passing ability or the heads up awareness to know when to pass of create space for others. He is greedy and dies with the ball far too often to be regarded as a class fullback. So IMO his lack of the attacking ability diminishes his value in the market place. IMO he will finish up in the pack if he can restore his physicality which has deserted him this year. The term bad apple comes to mind and you know what happens if you don't throw it out.

If Zak doesn't get any offers from the NRL - which wouldn't surprise me at all BTW - then that in itself might be the wake-up call he needs. Regardless of whether he stays at Leeds or not, he needs to grow up.

I do wonder if that's why Leeds set the price so high. Send a message to him and any other players (and any clubs sniffing around) that nobody is going to be let go cheaply and you might not be as in demand as you might've thought.

The fee might be high but I'd rather we set it too high than too low, even if you don't get an offer of £300k you'll probably get one closer to it for setting the fee at that mark.

There's a huge difference between some Aussie player agent telling someone like Hardaker that he can get him a gig (or even a club making preliminary enquiries) and actually getting a contract.

That's not to say he won't go, but the only team I can really see having an interest is Newcastle. Injuries aside most clubs don't need a fullback as far as I can tell, and he's not as good as any of the top 10 here.

If Dan Sarginson can get an NRL contract, I'm sure Hardaker won't have a problem. It wouldn't surprise me if it was already done and dusted

Perhaps there's not as much to speculate as people think in terms of what he has done. 1 thing is for sure, people should not believe what they read. From what I know, he needs a change of scenery and, he probably needs a break truth be told. This injury might be a blessing in disguise for him.

I'd say the only issue I have as a Leeds fan is that right now we're in dire straits and it's a case of all hands on deck. If he's going to be a zombie on field then he's no loss, but I'd rather he stayed to the end of the season and then moved.

A £300k transfer fee?

I look forward to the same kind of "ground-breaking partnership agreement" we got from the Bulldogs in exchange for Eastwood.

Still waiting for a transfer fee from Manly for Craig Innes.

Just been on Triple M Saturday NRL show that Zak was offered to Souths a month ago. They quoted that Souths did their research and thought he had too much going on off the field to take a punt on him.

Zak might see a bit more of this response. The Knights might be his only real option.

Zak + Australia = Doesn't bear thinking about.

When the sun makes a brief appearance in the UK, it only has to reach 21C before serial meatheads who cannot help themselves are all out in force stripped down to the waist, getting drunk and behaving like the miscreants they are.

Plonk him back in the Fev team and wait for a SL club to make a bid. Let him become their toxic problem instead. More chance of getting a transfer fee for him too.

Jeff,
Enjoy last night!! - they will be arresting you for cruelty to children subjecting your nephew to that.

Told you Leeds would win because I was there



Any cruelty was directed at me. The cheeky young 'un said to me... [i"My dad always takes me to the club shop at half time"[/i... so we paid a visit to the club shop at half time. Within less than a minute he'd picked up that new shirt, shorts and a ball, handed them to me saying he'll have them.

I totted up the bill for all three items



He only got the shorts!

You were right - close call though.

Your nephew overlooked the fact he was in Yorkshire - in the words of Fred Boycott "Ow Much"icon_biggrin.gif

He's already got several balls from that shop. I know that for a fact. It was a p1sstake from a young lad trying it on. He doesn't require another identical ball. Ball was £15, shirt was £47 and shorts were £20. I wasn't getting fleeced for £82. He got the shorts only



Flying off on holiday with his mum and dad today so he can wear them on the beach later.

He's not my nephew, he's my nephew's young lad.

I totally agree.

This season is all but done (assuming we scrape through the middle 8s). I would give sutty first shout at fb for the rest of the season, it suits him better than the halves, though he is very rough. If he can't cut it then we can add a new fb to the shopping list.

And as for the other player wanting out, let him go too. The club needs a brush put through it and only players we want and who want to stay should be kept.

Let's just get it out there now shall we? As people may well know, Hardaker's bird was pregnant. Now she is no longer pregnant, and it's down to her choosing not to be, without consulting the poor kid. So there you go, fresh star in Australia wanted. .

If zak doesn't want that kid she can plow ahead and have it anyway and he's on the hook for child support for 20 years. and labelled a dead beat dad. Yet she can do away with the kid and he has no say. But yeah, feminism, inequality, her body her rules yadda yadda.



F*ck that crap.

The 1870s called. They don't want you back.

Deary me.

Nothing like a bit of progressive thinking!!