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| Quote ="nantwichexile"
I do not diminish the achievements - which are fantastic - rather the use of it as defence for present form.'"
Go on then, I'll indulge you just this once.
Its funny you should comment on your focus on current form to justify selection.
Its funny because you first advocated ditching Diskin in favour of Buderus and Mcshane in April of 2009.
At that point Buderus's Leeds career consisted of arriving injured, making his debut and getting injured again, missing a further 8 weeks as a result, then playing from the bench in defeats to Salford and Bradford.
Meanwhile Mcshane had made 2 appearances as a substitute.
Would that be the top class form you were making your judgement from?
Mind you, prior to that you'd been advocating playing Danny McGuire at right centre and shortly afterwards you were supporting releasing Rob Burrow and dropping the likes of Bailey and Ablett....
That's all folks.
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Go on then, I'll indulge you just this once.
Its funny you should comment on your focus on current form to justify selection.
Its funny because you first advocated ditching Diskin in favour of Buderus and Mcshane in April of 2009.
At that point Buderus's Leeds career consisted of arriving injured, making his debut and getting injured again, missing a further 8 weeks as a result, then playing from the bench in defeats to Salford and Bradford.
Meanwhile Mcshane had made 2 appearances as a substitute.
Would that be the top class form you were making your judgement from?
Mind you, prior to that you'd been advocating playing Danny McGuire at right centre and shortly afterwards you were supporting releasing Rob Burrow and dropping the likes of Bailey and Ablett....
Playing to the gallery again Puig !!
The thing is [iI[/i am fallible....I make mistakes, I am not conceited, can be persuaded and do not profess to always be correct. (Although I do not specifically remember stating I would release Burrow ? Nor dropping Ablett ?)
However, I am sure you will bother to go to the trouble of "exposing" me if this is correct.
Must be nice to be a delusional god.
Some of you guys obviously have nothing better to do.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"You have to applaud someone who can can slip sequipedalion into a post!
You Sir, are a veritable hyperpolysyllabicsesquipedalianist!
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Thank you...although I did actually spell the word wrong. It's amazing the likes of some on here didn't jump on me like the proverbial ton of bricks.
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Its a good job some on here don't run a business - you'd keep people on based on blind loyalty!!'"
You don't seem to be best liked on here......BUT how can any sensible rational individual, living in the real world, manage to actually disagree with this ?
However, I am sure some will.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Playing to the gallery again Puig !!
The thing is [iI[/i am fallible....I make mistakes, I am not conceited, can be persuaded and do not profess to always be correct. (Although I do not specifically remember stating I would release Burrow ? Nor dropping Ablett ?)
However, I am sure you will bother to go to the trouble of "exposing" me if this is correct.
Must be nice to be a delusional god.
Some of you guys obviously have nothing better to do.'"
As 'alternative' IDs go this one is particularly lightweight and presumably deliberately leaves itself wide open.
I think you could do better but it will probably need a new persona to work.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"As 'alternative' IDs go this one is particularly lightweight and presumably deliberately leaves itself wide open.
I think you could do better but it will probably need a new persona to work.'"
Am gonna leave you guys to it now.....but somebody needs to advise Puig that I am not whoever he seems to think I am
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"
Am gonna leave you guys to it now.....but somebody needs to advise Puig that I am not whoever he seems to think I am'"
That's right.
Looking forward to the next 'comedy' creation.
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Its a good job some on here don't run a business - you'd keep people on based on blind loyalty!!'"
Or alternatively, keep people based on an objective opinion of their performance.
Damn, I forgot. Only your opinion (and those of your comedy creations) is relevant. How silly of me.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Or alternatively, keep people based on an objective opinion of their performance.'"
In which case Buderus and McShane would still be the hookers of choice.
IMO, of course.
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| Quote ="Wheels"In which case Buderus and McShane would still be the hookers of choice.
IMO, of course.
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And you're entitled to that opinion - it's yours, look after it with pride no matter how stupid it is.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"And you're entitled to that opinion - it's yours, look after it with pride no matter how stupid it is.
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Its a good job some on here don't run a business - you'd keep people on based on blind loyalty!!'"
Who cost's the business the most money?
Who has made the business the most money?
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"
Am gonna leave you guys to it now'"
[u Translation: [/uI've had my ar5e handed to me.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Who cost's the business the most money?
Who has made the business the most money?'"
Probably Diskin on both. Certainly on the 2nd one.
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"[uTranslation: [/uI've had my ar5e handed to me.'"
I hoenstly don't think he/she realises. There are people who pay to be humiliated, so for our friend this could be the the equivalent of a pie a pint and a b***job.
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| I do not need to defend myself ...certainly against those who are ignorant of how to use an apostrophe or who resort to pureile co attempts at humour ....so I won't
Business has to be fluid to maintain success. If somebody costs a lot of money it expects performance. If somebody has made the company money in the past it rightly expects that to continue. It remains a business never a charity.
As others have quite eloquently stated: let's stop making this a pi55ing contest and deal in the facts.
Buderus deserves his place because he is the better distributer; better passer of the ball; better at running selectively from dummy half and is the better at tackling.
Diskin apparently deserves his place because he is better for team moral (presumably even if the team loses owing to his lesser skills) and has been part of an amazingly successful (not unappreciated) run for Leeds in the past.
From the perspective of an impartial onlooker ....not a fanatical desire to be "one of the lads" or having a misguided loyalty to someone they think cares two hoots about he or she.....which makes more sense ?
As for McShane: whether he has the ability to make the grade might be questionable (although the Hull FC fans seem to rate him highly enough.) but how long before he decides he has exhausted his patience ? Does he not deserve to be at least second only to one other next season ? On present merit that looks like Buderus. Maybe he hasn't yet won "man of match" with Leeds...but until he is given an extended run in his rich present vein of form for the whole match that ccould continue to evade him
If McShane fails the test there will be other options if Diskin is no longer with the club ...what's Lunt's present contract situation ? Doesn't Sinfield get picked for his country to play hooker ??
Good times the club has HAD ....the skill is to maintain that without over thanking present staff.
Further; all those who maintain they have unquestioning faith in the present management / coaching staff with the persistence in accommodating Diskin ....is this not the same set-up that courted and brought over Buderus in the first place ? Do you really consider he was added to the squad as an "expensive luxury" ? Do you still have that same unquestioning faith in THAT decision ? Or is it possible they sometimes get it wrong ?
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| :2y36njtuMaybe he hasn't yet won "man of match" with Leeds...but until he is given an extended run in his rich present vein of form for the whole match that could continue to evade him:2y36njtu
I meant Buderus of course.
:2y36njtuIf McShane fails the test there will be other options if Diskin is no longer with the club ...what's Lunt's present contract situation ? Doesn't Sinfield get picked for his country to play hooker ??
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery":2y36njtuAs an outsider, but an RL fan.
I watched him closely in the U20 game v Wigan and he was completely outplayed by a 17 year old Logan Tomkins, but I guess that's another debate.
It wouldn't surprise me to see Mickey McIlorum heading back to Leeds at some stage and maybe sooner rather than later. he is very much like Diskin in the way he plays the game.'" :2y36njtu
One game is not enough to judge too critically, but interesting.
However, it does further highlight there would always be other options if Diskin was (sad though it might be) to leave.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Or alternatively, keep people based on an objective opinion of their performance.
Damn, I forgot. Only your opinion (and those of your comedy creations) is relevant. How silly of me.'"
The penny drops. I'm guessing Magic Wand must have a history of aliases....well that will better allow me to excuse the abuse I've had to take from some for daring to stick my head above the parapet.
I assure you I am not Magic Wand.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"And spelling morale without the 'e' on the end. Actually that was quite a giveaway too.
He's about as effective as a marzipan dildo.'"
Have you really nothing better to do ?? I really can't believe you would bother to go to so much trouble to highlight something like this.....even if I was Magic Wand. Gosh you guys are so tedious and need to get a life. You're all welcome to these juvenile exchanges.
For those with some semblance of 'a life' ....I'm sure you would forgive me for no longer getting embroiled in this petty nonsense and allow me to now bow out with some dignity.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"
Gosh this is fun.
I didn't "come on correcting people on their English Language" ...merely on the use of the apostrophe. I cannot understand why people find it so difficult. That's just me. To me it's simple.
Yeah I inadvertently spelt puerile wrong in a hurry ( earlier this week I also spelt 'sesquipedalian' wrong: care to castigate me for that too ? ) and overlooked a full stop because I was using an infernal PDA with its little accompanying plastic stick.... which is difficult for me, in my defence, owing to my particular inexperience. I apologise. (Or is it 'apologize' and 'defense' thanks to the creeping Americanisation into our language)
Rather than "stupid" for not correctly using the quote (should the word not be 'quotation' incidentally ?) function, again it is my inexperience on its particular usage, with an inability to apply too much importance to it really. Again I apologise to all those it offends.
Why did you feel the need to send your immature post ? Do you feel satisfyingly superior now ? Are you so insecure ?
I was actually dumb enough to think this was a forum for sharing opinions on the matters of Leeds' matches and rugby league more generally. Rather it's a club for parsimonious parochialism.'"
Jeez, you are exceptionally boring. When you talk to people do they just turn around and walk away?
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"He's about as effective as =#FF4000a marzipan dildo.'"
Hummm - now there's an idea!
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"
Have you really nothing better to do ?? I really can't believe you would bother to go to so much trouble to highlight something like this.....even if I was Magic Wand. Gosh you guys are so tedious and need to get a life. You're all welcome to these juvenile exchanges.
For those with some semblance of 'a life' ....I'm sure you would forgive me for no longer getting embroiled in this petty nonsense and allow me to now bow out with some dignity.'"
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