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| Where would you pick Lolohea though? Sutcliffe did ok at 6, and whilst he might not be the long-term solution he probably deserves to stay there for a few games. For now at least picking up points is all that matters.
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| I think Tui needs to force his way back in.
We do look very workmanlike with Sutcliffe in there and we lose the undoubted flair of Tui with his kicks and passing but I'm with you, lets grind it out for now, get some confidence back and push on, it gives Tui a bit of time to adapt and improve his woeful D.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Where would you pick Lolohea though? Sutcliffe did ok at 6, and whilst he might not be the long-term solution he probably deserves to stay there for a few games. For now at least picking up points is all that matters.'"
I imagine the injury situation will dictate his inclusion - we're another couple of troops down potentially, I could see Sutcliffe being brought back into the pack although he's 10-20kgs off playing weight for a forward IMO.
I would like to see more of Tui in the first team to form a considered view but Furner has to go with whoever is providing Ws at the moment (and the foreseeable).
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| If that's the case you could play Lolohea alongside Sutcliffe and you get the defence of Sutcliffe and the creativity of Tui job done.
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| Spoke to Cuthbo last Friday he said he hoped to be fit for this game, if not this week then next week at the latest. Stevie Ward still had a leg brace on, so he is still some time away.
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"I think Tui needs to force his way back in.
We do look very workmanlike with Sutcliffe in there and we lose the undoubted flair of Tui with his kicks and passing but I'm with you, lets grind it out for now, get some confidence back and push on, it gives Tui a bit of time to adapt and improve his woeful D.'"
It's a difficult one. I would say our best performances of the season so far were WITH Lolohea in the side. But the crucial win has come without him.
I don't know, but I would imagine Furner has told Tui where he wants him to improve, and they'll be monitoring that/practising it in training until he's happy or injuries change the decision.
Maybe he's been made a bit of a scapegoat because Leeds couldn't drop the incumbent captain or either Marquee signing for errors / form. He's certainly not the only player who's been rocks and diamonds this season; however I do think he deserved dropping for his consistent defensive misses.
If that is down to attitude and/or individual technique, we're stuffed and Tui will be on his way because you can't fix it in a mature player IMO. If it's something made worse by unfamiliarity with team-mates and systems, that's worth more patience. I think Tui's pace and mobility is an issue either way, because he has to be able to get into position and then get up and across in D. Again, conditioning is to some extent fixable, but why on Earth an early 20s professional rugby league back would be a stone over their playing weight boggles my mind. Their job is to be as physically fit as possible - and that's where my sympathy for the player wanes a bit.
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| Quote ="Brodie123"Spoke to Cuthbo last Friday he said he hoped to be fit for this game, if not this week then next week at the latest. Stevie Ward still had a leg brace on, so he is still some time away.'"
Good news. There's no point rushing any players though, I'd rather we weren't grinding them into the ground so we're totally knackered by the final quarter of the season, where we will still need points I'm sure.
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| Quote ="chapylad"If that's the case you could play Lolohea alongside Sutcliffe and you get the defence of Sutcliffe and the creativity of Tui job done.'"
Myler played pretty well last time out though as well, kicking aside. We might see a Lolohea/Sutcliffe combo at some point this season though.
McLelland was a bit off this weekend for the 19s I thought, not sure he's fully recovered from his injury from what I saw.
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| Richie Myler gets a one match ban so misses Thursdays game.
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| Hopefully Tui steps back into side in a bit better shape he's had nearly 3 week to work on fitness etc so hopefully he steps in for Myler and we might see him at his best.
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| myler 1 game ban, so misses Thursdays game against HKR lolohea it is then !!
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| Quote ="Frosties."Richie Myler gets a one match ban so misses Thursdays game.'"
That's a big loss. Time for Lolohea to step up.
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| Sutty & Tui in the halves...an interesting combo there. Hopefully the last tackle plays will improve. The 20m grubbers that fail to find touch leave me unconvinced that there isn't a better way of going about things.
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| Lolohea should be up for this one, hopefully we get a big response from him. Obviously he hasn’t had a great start but he could turn it around. Plenty of players have been dropped and come back stronger, even the great Sir Kevin Sinfield.
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| Another option, just getting this out there, is Parcell or Dwyer in at 7. They’re both in good form. It would mean one of them putting in an 80min stint at hooker but I reckon either could.
That could free up the bench spot for Tui?
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Another option, just getting this out there, is Parcell or Dwyer in at 7. They’re both in good form. It would mean one of them putting in an 80min stint at hooker but I reckon either could.
That could free up the bench spot for Tui?'"
Said that previously and thought Parcell could fit in there but would like to see Tui and Sutcliffe given a shot.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Another option, just getting this out there, is Parcell or Dwyer in at 7. They’re both in good form. It would mean one of them putting in an 80min stint at hooker but I reckon either could.
That could free up the bench spot for Tui?'"
That would leave even less of a kicking game though (the occasional drop goal aside) which is pretty dire as it is. One thing tui did at least seem to possess is a towering bomb in good ball.
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| be Good to get behind tui if he plays and try to lift his confidence, not heard a song yet for any of the 3 overseas signings.
Not very original but Tui Lolohea seems to scan perfectly into the old Ali song, learning the lines is fairly easy as well.
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| There's a Konrad Hurrell one. It's just not very good. Plus the atmosphere at HQ is non-existent so it's never heard.
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| Thought Tui had the same song as Kylie Leuluai? His name might fit well with Segeyaro's old song too.
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| How about
He’s big, he’s bad, his name is Konrad, HUURRELLL, HUURRELLL.
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Konrad, Konrad Konrad, Konrad Konrad, Konrad Konrad Hurrell.
(To the tune of 2 Unlimited - No Limit)
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| You should stick to 'This is a must win game'
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| The old Keith Senior song could get a reboot for someone with big hair rather than no hair.
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| Well I think the Flash Gordon Theme tune
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