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| I haven't seen enough of him to have formed an opinion as yet but he looks a good prospect.
Quote ="Brian McClennan" “We are delighted to have signed Jay and we are looking forward to welcoming him to the club. He has impressed us with his performances for the Wildcats over the past two years and when he has played against us in the Reserve Academy or the Festive Challenge matches against Wakefield."'"
How about when he played against Leeds at 1st grade level earlier this season though?
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Pretty exciting times at the Rhinos.
Add to that L.Burgess who is continuing to improve every season.'"
I'm not sure about Burgess. A lot of huff and puff but limited impact. Unfair?
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| Quote ="Melch"I'm not sure about Burgess. A lot of huff and puff but limited impact. Unfair?'"
I think burgess will prove to be a good prop for us.
At this moment in time he does appear to be suffering with 2nd season syndrome though plus his workload and number of games are up with the injuries we've had and scruton leaving.
He still has plenty to learn and can be lead footed in defence but he's got time on his side and i'm sure he'll sort it.
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| any puns yet?
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| Quote ="Melch"I'm not sure about Burgess. A lot of huff and puff but limited impact. Unfair?'"
I'd say.
Often Leeds' second best prop and must be one of the first names down on McClennan's team sheet.
There are better props out there but only one better at Leeds.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'd say.
Often Leeds' second best prop and must be one of the first names down on McClennan's team sheet.
There are better props out there but only one better at Leeds.'"
Agreed.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'd say.
Often Leeds' second best prop and must be one of the first names down on McClennan's team sheet.
There are better props out there but only one better at Leeds.'"
I thought Luke played well last Friday night
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'd say.
Often Leeds' second best prop and must be one of the first names down on McClennan's team sheet.
There are better props out there but only one better at Leeds.'"
Agreed. Bailey is head and shoulders above everyone else
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'd say.
Often Leeds' second best prop and must be one of the first names down on McClennan's team sheet.
There are better props out there but only one better at Leeds.'"
He just needs to learn how to move sideways in the defensive line. Scruton was a better prop in every department for me - significantly in his defensive mobility. I thought Burgess had plenty to offer on what I saw last year, but he hasn't really come on this year. He has good hands though and can certainly cart the ball up. I was hoping he'd have the same aggressive streak his brother has, but still a way to go there.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"He just needs to learn how to move sideways in the defensive line. Scruton was a better prop in every department for me - significantly in his defensive mobility. I thought Burgess had plenty to offer on what I saw last year, but he hasn't really come on this year. He has good hands though and can certainly cart the ball up. I was hoping he'd have the same aggressive streak his brother has, but still a way to go there.'"
He's only young though is Luke and it's only his 2nd season. He's got great go forward which will only get better, his defence will come in time. The lads' got a huge future at Leeds imo.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"He just needs to learn how to move sideways in the defensive line. Scruton was a better prop in every department for me - significantly in his defensive mobility. I thought Burgess had plenty to offer on what I saw last year, but he hasn't really come on this year. He has good hands though and can certainly cart the ball up. I was hoping he'd have the same aggressive streak his brother has, but still a way to go there.'"
I agree but it's a pointless exercise comparing him to someone Leeds could not/did not retain. Burgess has areas of his game he needs to improve but is coming along steadily enough considering the additional workload he's been forced into carrying this season.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I agree but it's a pointless exercise comparing him to someone Leeds could not/did not retain. Burgess has areas of his game he needs to improve but is coming along steadily enough considering the additional workload he's been forced into carrying this season.'"
Even comparing now, Burgess has had a far better season than Scruton's.
Scruton, has expected, has gone backwards.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Even comparing now, Burgess has had a far better season than Scruton's.
Scruton, has expected, has gone backwards.'"
becoming a Bull did that
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| Really chuffed with this signing!! The kid is only 19 and a Leeds fan so will be interesting to see how he goes!!
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| I haven't seen too much of the guy.
But did Wakie put up a fight to retain him?
Did they want to keep him, or was the taste of a transfer fee deemed as good business?
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| The club firmly believe that a player is not up to super league until he is past 20, especially applying this to the forwards.
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just a small point jay pitts is only 19 himself according to the yep kind of goes against what your saying
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"I haven't seen too much of the guy.
But did Wakie put up a fight to retain him?
Did they want to keep him, or was the taste of a transfer fee deemed as good business?'"
He was out of contract IIRC at the end of this season and could have moved on for a fee to be determined by tribunal.
Given he's got limited first team experience and no senior rep honours, they wouldn't have got much at tribunal. If his heart was set on leaving, then it makes sense for them to cash in now.
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| Quote ="Sallystar"thanks LS16 I'm not very technical
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I'm sure you have other skills
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Something we may be missing is a good 'off-loading' prop – when I watch Shirley Crabtree for the Giants, he always seems to make the hard yards then 60% of the time pops out an off load.
We'll have to see how he gets on.'"
Now hes one guy I'd love to see in our pack
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"He was out of contract IIRC at the end of this season and could have moved on for a fee to be determined by tribunal.
Given he's got limited first team experience and no senior rep honours, they wouldn't have got much at tribunal. If his heart was set on leaving, then it makes sense for them to cash in now.'"
could we have not waited till the end of the season thus saving a fee. i cant see him playing much this season if he is currently out of form/favour at wakey
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"He was out of contract IIRC at the end of this season and could have moved on for a fee to be determined by tribunal.
Given he's got limited first team experience and no senior rep honours, they wouldn't have got much at tribunal. If his heart was set on leaving, then it makes sense for them to cash in now.'"
Yeah seems logical.
Either way the players we have recently brought on: Coady, Armor and Pitts will add a well needed bit of beef to the reserves.
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| Quote ="Steve-O"Agreed. Bailey is head and shoulders above everyone else'"
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