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| Quote ="Brian McDonut"Only an idiot would moan about the deal, we have been skint for years!!'"
Technically we weren't skint it's just we had an idiot running the club.
Selling your soul for 50 pieces of silver is not what football should be about.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"None?
But i still call the traditional grounds as i always did i.e wheldon road,odsal,belle vue and headingley...'"
Exactly
You and I will both call it Elland Road no matter what
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| Quote ="rhinos21"
Selling your soul for 50 pieces of silver is not what football should be about.'"
It's how football is and has been for many years
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"It's how football is and has been for many years'"
Well yes but it doesn't make it right, however what red bull do is a step above.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"Well yes but it doesn't make it right, however what red bull do is a step above.'"
If you look at world football as a whole it's a common thing to see with naming teams
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"If you look at world football as a whole it's a common thing to see with naming teams'"
I am looking at world football that's why I know red bull should be nowhere near elland road.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"I am looking at world football that's why I know red bull should be nowhere near elland road.'"
Correct, you know making £40m to change a few names so [iisn't[/i worth it
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| I think there's alot of scaremongering WRT the proposed Red Bull link up IF we link up with them i don't believe for one minute GFh will allow them to rename the Club and i don't think the FA or FL would either.
Onto the rebranding of ER and shirt sponsorship then i say bring it on NO-ONE will refer to it as the Red Bull Arena or whatever name they come up with its a commercial exercise EVERY fan will still call it ER a perfect example is the Revie Stand every one calls it the Kop!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I think there's alot of scaremongering WRT the proposed Red Bull link up IF we link up with them i don't believe for one minute GFh will allow them to rename the Club and i don't think the FA or FL would either.
Onto the rebranding of ER and shirt sponsorship then i say bring it on NO-ONE will refer to it as the Red Bull Arena or whatever name they come up with its a commercial exercise EVERY fan will still call it ER a perfect example is the Revie Stand every one calls it the Kop!!'"
Like the football league stopped Cardiff changing kits or the situation with with Wimbledon.
You say nobody will refer to it as the red bull arena or whatever you are wrong the media will be forced to do so as will other clubs and gradually it will become the norm in 10 years time youngsters will have only known it as the red bull arena.
As for the kop there are plenty of names for it which is fine as none include sponsors.
Gfhc are an investment bank they are after a quick buck and will get that however possible.
As I keep saying look at what red bull do and don't be so arrogant to say it won't happen to leeds united because we don't know that.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I think there's alot of scaremongering WRT the proposed Red Bull link up IF we link up with them i don't believe for one minute GFh will allow them to rename the Club and i don't think the FA or FL would either.
Onto the rebranding of ER and shirt sponsorship then i say bring it on NO-ONE will refer to it as the Red Bull Arena or whatever name they come up with its a commercial exercise EVERY fan will still call it ER a perfect example is the Revie Stand every one calls it the Kop!!'"
Like the football league stopped Cardiff changing kits or the situation with with Wimbledon.
You say nobody will refer to it as the red bull arena or whatever you are wrong the media will be forced to do so as will other clubs and gradually it will become the norm in 10 years time youngsters will have only known it as the red bull arena.
As for the kop there are plenty of names for it which is fine as none include sponsors.
Gfhc are an investment bank they are after a quick buck and will get that however possible.
As I keep saying look at what red bull do and don't be so arrogant to say it won't happen to leeds united because we don't know that.
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| i remember, being old, coventry trying to change their name to coventry toyota and being refused. the F.A. would never let the name be changed.
i will reiterate ITS INVESTMENT NOT TAKEOVER.
it would be shirt and ground sponsership
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| Quote ="tad rhino"i remember, being old, coventry trying to change their name to coventry toyota and being refused. the F.A. would never let the name be changed.
i will reiterate ITS INVESTMENT NOT TAKEOVER.
it would be shirt and ground sponsership'"
The fact you are just guessing isnt very reassuring, I would urge you to look at red bulls track record.
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| i have. and clubs they have bought they have renamed and transformed. they were small or new clubs in small leagues that needed maximum publicity.
leeds have a massive following, a big name and they wouldn't need such publicity in what is a massive league.
if red bull bought leeds then i would be worried. as it is its sponsership and boy do we need it
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| Considering the club has been up for sale since December I wouldn't rule anything out.
The club currently has a shirt sponsor, so are red bull going to buy that deal out and just sponsor the shirt???
I can't see it.
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| like i said if they buy the club then i start worrying.
until then why worry about something that hasn't happened yet?
been following leeds so long i don't worry much anymore. seen enough to last a lifetime
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| Rhinos21
You need to stop living in the past
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Rhinos21
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Living in the past?
Not really just have seen what red bull have done elsewhere and rather than sticking my head in the sand i am worried.
At this moment we are facing another season without a real chance of promotion.
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| What Red Bull have done elsewhere doesn't automaticaly mean they'll come to us with the same intent.
First of all english football is much bigger and LUFC don't require the whole Club to be re-branded to achieve success.
Every Buisness changes it's approach to different projects even within the same field for Red Bull to change the LUFC name would be commercial suicide they'd have nothing to earn from.
However re-naming the ground and shirt sponsorship will have it's commercial rewards there's a new SKY t.v deal done for the Championship ,Skybet are involved with LUFC and it's the 1st time they've actually gone as far as sponsoring a stand (west).
Saying that the rewards for getting Promotion are the biggest they've ever been and in LUFC they join a potential Giant of English football with a hug history so they would'nt have to go as far as they have in the past in terms of re-branding the whole set up.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"What Red Bull have done elsewhere doesn't automaticaly mean they'll come to us with the same intent.
First of all english football is much bigger and LUFC don't require the whole Club to be re-branded to achieve success.
Every Buisness changes it's approach to different projects even within the same field for Red Bull to change the LUFC name would be commercial suicide they'd have nothing to earn from.
However re-naming the ground and shirt sponsorship will have it's commercial rewards there's a new SKY t.v deal done for the Championship ,Skybet are involved with LUFC and it's the 1st time they've actually gone as far as sponsoring a stand (west).
Saying that the rewards for getting Promotion are the biggest they've ever been and in LUFC they join a potential Giant of English football with a hug history so they would'nt have to go as far as they have in the past in terms of re-branding the whole set up.'"
But it doesn't mean they won't either
Red bulls own words
"We don't do conventional sponsorship"
So the question is what do they do??
The idea lufc are too big is farcical, it's not about how big it's about who is running the club that matters, we are currently run by an investment bank, there goal is to make money nothing else.
I would really look at what they did in Austria, Salzburg had a decent history, as far as red bull are concerned that history doesn't matter.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"But it doesn't mean they won't either
Red bulls own words
"We don't do conventional sponsorship"
So the question is what do they do??
The idea lufc are too big is farcical, it's not about how big it's about who is running the club that matters, we are currently run by an investment bank, there goal is to make money nothing else.
I would really look at what they did in Austria, Salzburg had a decent history, as far as red bull are concerned that history doesn't matter.'"
How recent were Red Bulls own words??
Also it's not an "idea" how big LUFC is it's fact check the History you're harping on about.
Like i said LUFC in the Championship or pushing for the Prem is much bigger than the Austrians and Yanks etc etc.
Revenue wise if they "re-named" LUFC it would take much more £££ for less return you don't need to be Alan Sugar to see that the fanbase would walk away in their droves.
However for less investment and sticking to Stadium naming rights ,Shirts sponsors etc etc their return should be much higher and eventually they'd be partners with a Prem Club which is the biggest League in the world.
Partnerships don't always mean "just sponsorship".
I'm fully aware of GFH's background but they know they'd earn more in the Prem and like everything the product has to have potential to earn and re-naming LUFC doesn't it'd die on it's @$$ before it got going.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"How recent were Red Bulls own words??
Also it's not an "idea" how big LUFC is it's fact check the History you're harping on about.
Like i said LUFC in the Championship or pushing for the Prem is much bigger than the Austrians and Yanks etc etc.
Revenue wise if they "re-named" LUFC it would take much more £££ for less return you don't need to be Alan Sugar to see that the fanbase would walk away in their droves.
However for less investment and sticking to Stadium naming rights ,Shirts sponsors etc etc their return should be much higher and eventually they'd be partners with a Prem Club which is the biggest League in the world.
Partnerships don't always mean "just sponsorship".
I'm fully aware of GFH's background but they know they'd earn more in the Prem and like everything the product has to have potential to earn and re-naming LUFC doesn't it'd die on it's @$$ before it got going.'"
Its how they work.
Looking at the comments online i think many would actually be happy to become redbull leeds sadly, it just sums up modern football.
Again you assume that its just stadium and sponsorship they want, they dont do conventional sponsorship.
If you are fully aware of GFH's background you will know they are out for a quick buck, as for being in the premiership we arent there yet and show no sign of getting there this season, how long will GFH hang around? what if they decide to take the money and run. There are no gurantees in football.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"Its how they work.
Looking at the comments online i think many would actually be happy to become redbull leeds sadly, it just sums up modern football.
Again you assume that its just stadium and sponsorship they want, they dont do conventional sponsorship.
If you are fully aware of GFH's background you will know they are out for a quick buck, as for being in the premiership we arent there yet and show no sign of getting there this season, how long will GFH hang around? what if they decide to take the money and run. There are no gurantees in football.'"
You want Peter Risdale back?
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