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Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"I didnt think he could get 1 as its a 2-3 game offence! I think he will get a 2 as he was reckless, just a shame that Stains will benefit!!'"
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Sums the RFL and their disciplinary system up!!
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Sums the RFL and their disciplinary system up!!
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| Quote ="Sherbert Dip"Tetchy Pie Eaters don't seem happy. Doubt it would take much trolling for the 'ban' button to be pressed over there.
Someone needs to explain the word 'reckless' to the Goon Muppets.'"
Seems to be an appetite for this to be true, when its not true unfortuantely.
Excellent thread though, and a lot of very interesting views, we should not lose sight of the fact it wasnt the Ablett incident in itself, its was jawdroppingly unreal to see us get a man sent off after all that went before, it is really difficult not to suspect favouritism, but I guess its possible that the ref just had an off night.
Surely after 3 games Tellins, Wire and this one where we had the bad end of official decisions, we can expect the balance to be levelled for the play offs, and we would accept that if it happens.
As for the Sn Tellins fans trying to bleat, I forgive every Leeds fan as the Tellins fans are just ridiculous, we tend to forget this in the heat of the moment, but to see the Tellins fans spout such utter drivel reconfirms that they are the real enemy and scourge of the game. |
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| Quote ="Wiggin Uber Alles"Surely after 3 games Tellins, Wire and this one where we had the bad end of official decisions, we can expect the balance to be levelled for the play offs, and we would accept that if it happens.
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Wigan were given the penalties (away from home) 13 to 10.
That's unusual alright but not indicative of Wigan being particularly badly done to. |
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"G1 - What is also interesting is all the keyboard warriors who think they know the laws and the various guidelines but have never taken the time to read them and just assume that they know them, or there opinion should be the law and can't understand why it isn't!
The review panel will currently be sitting looking at the videos from the weekend. The first thing is that they will watch the Ablett incident at full speed from as many angles as available, over and over again if required, and rarely look at contact with the head cases in slow-mo unless they think there is good reason to. Why? Because slow-mo distorts the viewers perception of time, as we live our life in real time and not slow-mo, they need to consider split second actions of players and what impact that had on the intent and outcome.
They have to decide if the tackle or intended tackle was either Careless, Reckless or Intentional or none of them. If they decide it was not any, they can still issue warning and letters which will be placed on a players record.
So, was Ablett Careless, Reckless or Intentional in his tackle on Tomkins? I think he was possibly Careless and maybe at a push Reckless but I do not think it was Intentional AND you have to look at the specific definitions of these terms in the guidelines. This means the 'guide' on suspension is 0 to 3 games!
Now, lets look at aggravating factors
Previous Record
Violence
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Incident not part of play
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and mitigating factors
Previous Good Record
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Technique or Fitness in some cases
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So, when you look at the aggravating factors for Ablett there isn't any, he does not have a previous record to speak of and did not cause injury (luckily).
When you look at mitigating factors he has a previous good (well excellent) record and suspect that he did apologise to Tomkins after the game and will tell the disciplinary panel (if he gets there) that he was remorseful. Not injuring a player is not a mitigating factor BTW, for obvious reasons.
So, is Ablett going get to get a ban? Well if he does 1 and possibly 2 matches would seem to me to be the maximum, IMO, he is looking at. [size=150I also think that, given his excellent record, that not getting one at all but being fined £300 quid along with a warning is a likely outcome[/size.
Predictions - Ok, when the review panel publish their findings this afternoon if Ablett is charged with being Careless I think it will be a fine and warning, if he gets charged with being Reckless he will get a one match ban. If he gets charged with being intentional, well I will be very surprised!
So, if my predictions come true, before the keyboard warriors start spouting the usual rubbish, read the guidelines and the reports and then tell us why they were wrong... bet you they don't though!'"
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Changed your glasses now hes got 3 games?'"
Whata waste of bandwidth and electricity it is giving Internet access to a placenta like you.
How could you read that informed, thoroughly well constructed post that offers reasoned opinion and come up with a response like that?
If IA chooses to respond to you (and I hope he doesn't) it'll be like Ghandi choosing to enter dialogue with Jade Goody.
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| Quote ="G1"Whata waste of bandwidth and electricity it is giving Internet access to a placenta like you.
How could you read that informed, thoroughly well constructed post that offers reasoned opinion and come up with a response like that?
If IA chooses to respond to you (and I hope he doesn't) it'll be like Ghandi choosing to enter dialogue with Jade Goody.
And before you finish yourself off, Ablett has an appeal to be heard.'"
Well obviously the disciplinary board aswell as 90% of all the fans in SL disagree with how 'informed and resonable' the post is. We all saw it as a 3 game ban and so did a few Leeds fans, maybe you and IA are right and the rest of us are wrong. On a seperate note are you and IA in a relationship, you seem very keen to get as far up his ar$e as possible. |
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Well obviously the disciplinary board aswell as 90% of all the fans in SL disagree with how 'informed and resonable' the post is. We all saw it as a 3 game ban and so did a few Leeds fans, maybe you and IA are right and the rest of us are wrong. :1nf55pf3On a seperate note are you and IA in a relationship, you seem very keen to get as far up his ar$e as possible.[
Please confine your homo erotic fantasy to your own board.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Why do you have the same narrow minded attitudes as your Cas neighbours
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I said earlier that this thread seems to be attracting muppets – well it looks like its not abating.
I just have a vision of Jim Henson, arms open wide saying “now run along my little ones, spout bollox and prove yourselves to be the true fekkwitts you really are.”
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Why do you have the same narrow minded attitudes as your Cas neighbours
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Certainley not. I believe you were the one suggesting that somebody trying to get up another blokes was in some way wrong. |
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"I said earlier that this thread seems to be attracting muppets – well it looks like its not abating.
I just have a vision of Jim Henson, arms open wide saying “now run along my little ones, spout bollox and prove yourselves to be the true fekkwitts you really are.”
I don’t think he’d be disappointed.'"
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Well obviously the disciplinary board aswell as 90% of all the fans in SL disagree with how 'informed and resonable' the post is. We all saw it as a 3 game ban and so did a few Leeds fans, maybe you and IA are right and the rest of us are wrong. On a seperate note are you and IA in a relationship, you seem very keen to get as far up his ar$e as possible.'"
Disagreed with what exactly?
IA went to great lengths to explain the process, the difference in the offences and the different range of punishments. It was a very informative post.
He then stuck his neck out and offered an opinion/prediction on the likely outcome. The panel initially made a different decision (but there's an appeal to come remember) but so what? You come back with "changed your glasess".
Whether or not I am trying to get up IAs a[irs[/ie is no concern of yours because whilst your attention is flattering you have no chance. Dribbling special needs pupils from Wigan are not on my radar so you should focus your attention elsewhere. If you offer your carer a few extra quid when she's next changing your adult diaper she might give you a quick one off the wrist. Good luck regardless. |
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If Ablett gets 3 games given his past good record, does that suggest that the panel may be starting to increase penalties for foul play? If that's the case then I have no problem with 3 games, assuming future incidents by all teams attract the same sort of penalties.
They have certainly shown no favouritism towards Leeds given we're at the pointy end of the season and all.
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| Quote ="G1"Disagreed with what exactly?
IA went to great lengths to explain the process, the difference in the offences and the different range of punishments. It was a very informative post.
He then stuck his neck out and offered an opinion/prediction on the likely outcome. The panel initially made a different decision (but there's an appeal to come remember) but so what? You come back with "changed your glasess".
Whether or not I am trying to get up IAs a[irs[/ie is no concern of yours because whilst your attention is flattering you have no chance. Dribbling special needs pupils from Wigan are not on my radar so you should focus your attention elsewhere. If you offer your carer a few extra quid when she's next changing your adult diaper she might give you a quick one off the wrist. Good luck regardless.'"
Disagree with the bit that i made large text, not that hard to understand really is it? |
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Disagree with the bit that i made large text, not that hard to understand really is it?'"
Then state that you disagree and maybe offer a counter argument not the sh#t* you posted  |
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"If Wigan fans moan this much when they win I dread to think what they'd be like had they lost.
Fekin muppets.'"
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"They would probably moan about something like try celebrations, I know it sound ridiculous but I think they would.'"
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You just get on worrying about the geriatric Leeds side. We're doing o.k.at Wigan. Not only have we knocked you off the top of the League ladder, we've also gone top of the home average attendance figures.
Not bad for a small town in Lancashire eh?
Now if you had a premiership football club in your city, you may find even more competition for spectators.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Now if you had a premiership football club in your city, you may find even more competition for spectators.'"
What difference would that make? Doesn't Leeds United already have higher average crowds than Wigan Athletic anyway? |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You just get on worrying about the geriatric Leeds side. We're doing o.k.at Wigan. Not only have we knocked you off the top of the League ladder, we've also gone top of the home average attendance figures.
Not bad for a small town in Lancashire eh?
Now if you had a premiership football club in your city, you may find even more competition for spectators.'"
According to slstats we are still top? even if we are not your home attendances are helped with a big slice by Saints and Wire but well done to Wigan all the same.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"What difference would that make? Doesn't Leeds United already have higher average crowds than Wigan Athletic anyway?'"
So you don't think that if Leeds United get into the Premiership it will have a detrimental effect on Leeds Rhinos attendances? |
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