Looked like a load of tries were scored down our right wing.

Was Scotty playing?

You ever been drunk? If so your a hypocrite.

kirke suspected broken leg

Are they ignoring you petal? Go on then I'll play. You see we can't blame the ref as there may be copyright problems with your mate reidy - hence the sig!
Next time if the big boys are having a spat don't try post in between as no one pays attention - even if you do quote your own posts!


You may go now.

Having watched the highlights only 1 of the 5 conceded could have been attributed to donald from a high kick.
The others elima barge over,elima bomb inbetween right centre/second row,baille angled run between right centre/second row and stacul over-lap try in the left hand corner but your need for a scapegoat is clearly noted!!

Just seen the highlights and how that was not a Penalty at the short kick off for Smith being taken out in the air is unbelievable. The French player just ran through him, Lee Smith was lucky not to get a serious injury.

but well done Dragons they deserved the win Leeds dropped far to much ball.

More reaction.... www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7376.php www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7377.php I think the catalans would of rightly felt robbed had we won. I accept it's hard to gauge a match on highlights alone but listening to the commentry and the post match reaction they were the better side. Again our discipline was poor and our defence looked ragged at times,hope kirke gets better soon although if it's whats feared then that could be season over!! Listening to the bluey interview he seems a coach under pressure and i still can't fathom why he hasn't sorted our discipline when it's a blatant fault in almost every match. Lets hope we can bounce back against a vibrant giants next sunday. Unless burrow and jjb are back the squad will be severely tested.

More reaction.... www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7376.php www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7377.php I think the catalans would of rightly felt robbed had we won. I accept it's hard to gauge a match on highlights alone but listening to the commentry and the post match reaction they were the better side. Again our discipline was poor and our defence looked ragged at times,hope kirke gets better soon although if it's whats feared then that could be season over!! Listening to the bluey interview he seems a coach under pressure and i still can't fathom why he hasn't sorted our discipline when it's a blatant fault in almost every match. Lets hope we can bounce back against a vibrant giants next sunday. Unless burrow and jjb are back the squad will be severely tested.

It's a chance for the likes of worrall and maybe liam brown to step up and prove their worth unless we bring someone else in.
Am i right in thinking you can de-register a player who's long term injured????
P.S.
Maybe a chance for dane manning or young clarkson also!!

Quote ="rhinoms"More reaction.... www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7376.php www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7377.php I think the catalans would of rightly felt robbed had we won. I accept it's hard to gauge a match on highlights alone but listening to the commentry and the post match reaction they were the better side. Again our discipline was poor and our defence looked ragged at times,hope kirke gets better soon although if it's whats feared then that could be season over!! Listening to the bluey interview he seems a coach under pressure and i still can't fathom why he hasn't sorted our discipline when it's a blatant fault in almost every match. Lets hope we can bounce back against a vibrant giants next sunday. Unless burrow and jjb are back the squad will be severely tested.'" Your summary is spot on and discipline has been a problem for a while but I'm not sure they know what to do about it.

Quote ="rhinoms"More reaction.... www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7376.php www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7377.php I think the catalans would of rightly felt robbed had we won. I accept it's hard to gauge a match on highlights alone but listening to the commentry and the post match reaction they were the better side. Again our discipline was poor and our defence looked ragged at times,hope kirke gets better soon although if it's whats feared then that could be season over!! Listening to the bluey interview he seems a coach under pressure and i still can't fathom why he hasn't sorted our discipline when it's a blatant fault in almost every match. Lets hope we can bounce back against a vibrant giants next sunday. Unless burrow and jjb are back the squad will be severely tested.'" Your summary is spot on and discipline has been a problem for a while but I'm not sure they know what to do about it.

The bottom line is Leeds are now beginning to go backwards at an alarming rate, too many average players being asked to do it week in week out and a shocking recruitment strategy.

Add to this the signing of current players underperforming (Kyle has been pathetic and little more than a passenger all season) on extended contracts and you have a recipe for disaster even with a coach who actually knows what he doing - this coach is to tactics what the Stevie Wonder is to a sightseeing adventure.

I think the majority of the penalties conceded are daft and avoidable i.e. the messing about at the ptb we do it nearly ALL the time and the dissent should be hammered by the coach imo.
I've no probs with the captain asking the ref questions and i accept emotions boil over from time to time but again almost every match we are doing it and it's costing us!!

I agree with you but I really think Bluey is struggling at the moment. His body language in the post match interview clearly shows that he hasn't got the answers - well not at the moment anyway.

It's funny how quickly people get on the players backs.
We were 10 seconds away from our 5th win in 6 games.

Leeds have been poor, don't let that paper over the cracks.

After nearly every match this season Bluey has sid that either the best team lost (when we won) or the best team won (when we lost) and I am afraid that is not his job. His job is to get the players up for each game and its not happening for whatever reason this season. Too many penalties too mich indicipline and a general air of appathathy seems to have come over a team who after all are 2 time Champions.Its easy to say but there needs to be a big change soon or we will follow up 2 winning years with a season much like 2006. Time for some seriouse desisons and some seriouse motivation.
Hope Ian Kirke isnt as bad as it sounds
Come on Leeds we are behind you

Not really just discussing a defeat and where a lot of our problems lie!!
Other than billy rhino(who blames every try on scott donald

).
No-one is really getting on the players "backs".

remind me...




what trophy did he win last season?

Where's the crisis that many of you speak of?

As another posted said, we were 10 seconds away from a 5th win in 6 games, whilst playing at about 3 levels worse than we are capable of. That's got to be a good thing in my eyes!

the bottom line is blah blah blah blah

shut up you clueless

catalan have a lot od good players! there form is up and down. have hammered them twice and last night we both scored and converted 5 trys each thedy had a penalty goal which was the difference. sounds like a good close game. there is no shame in losing these.

people need a reality check: that on any given day a a team can win/lose.

are attack is the second best in the league which is a big improvement and our defence is still the best we are still in 3rd.

some of your comments are utter tosh. did post pi$$ed?

So that'll be 4 on our right side and.............erm.....1 on t'other?


Must just be coincidence then, eh?




Still, looking on the positive side, only one try directly attributal to our out of form Aussie, which must give us all confidence for a sparkling performance against Hudds!


Scotty for MOM on Friday...... you heard it here first!

Some fans have a reasonable knowledge of the tactics of the game, maybe even some of the training but very few have much of a clue at all about the mental side of the game.

Blaming a coach, or the players for that matter, at this stage just underlines that ignorance.

In most team sports its common for coaches and players to talk about how much more difficult it is to retain a title than win it - simply because of the mental drain. How much harder do you think retaining it for a third year might be?

The only other side to win the title in consecutive years was St Helens. In the 3rd year they finished 4th in the table having lost around a third of their games. They failed to make it to the Grand Final.

The coach and players will know they are likely to be alot fresher than St Helens at the business end of the season and, by taking off some of the mental pressure in the middle of the season, they may well be able to peak both physically and mentally come October. They'd very much fancy their chances against Hull KR in the play offs even if they finished third but are still likely to take at least runners up spot.

I'm not concerned as yet but as people have previously stated, the contract renewals have been poor. Kirke, Ablett, Bailey, Burgess are average at best. Without a major signing the forwards are are asking too much fo these rotation squad players, giving them a key role when they aren't up to it. I worry about the workload Peacock is required to get through as well, don't be suprised if he burns out towards the end of the season considering he's had this workload on his shoulders since the beginning of '07.

Burgess is a raw talent with a number of weaknesses.

Ablett & Kirke have a couple of Grand Final appearances and winners rings each. Bailey has three winners rings and 4 Grand Final appearances to go with his GB caps. Not bad going for players who are 'average at best'.