Yeah I still feel Sangare offers a lot as a big strong mass in centre field: the emergence of TNW is a major boost.

Would imagine both will get plenty of game time this year. Chances of Holroyd, Oledski and Lisone going through without missing games seems slim to none.

Again this is why I’m fairly confident about next year and beyond: we’re seeing young players come through now who actually might make the grade, and we have better quality around them now too.

The main problem with Sangare is that he's OK for 10-15 mins, then he's blowing.
His size means he's never going to be super fit, but he needs to be able to manage longer minutes.
Or it just means the others have to do more.
And we all know what happens when we flogged Prior and Mik to death a couple of years back.

The 15 minutes would be fine if he played at full intensity and created the havoc that he has the potential to do.
He doesn't hit the line at any pace and gives away penalties by trying to be aggressive in defence but often getting in the wrong position.There is definitely a player in there but the jury's out for me at the moment.

I disagree, you see a lot of big men with good engines, he seems more muscle than fat, so you would think he can get fitter.

With a fit squad it will be interesting to see where RS goes.

Have to say I like the way RS has gone about the business of remodelling the side so far. One or two hiccups which is inevitable, but on the whole the team is transformed now (although credit has to go to the youth set up 4 years ago…).

I just don't think sangare has it between his ears to get better.

BDL syndrome?

With the arrival of Goudemand - who would be my 4th prop most weeks -, Hudson and now the emergence of TNW he'll to try and push a level or two or drop down the pecking order and eventually move on. It's up to him.

Big Daft Lad ?

We've seen many big players down the years who just don't use their size effectively. Sangare's a bit slow and he just doesn't hit the line hard enough. Maybe he'll change, but I can't remember seeing a player like that turn it around? Going back a while, but think how many coaches looked at the size of Karl Pryce and thought they could turn him into something special. He never changed, and was always the classic Tarzan/Jane player.

By contrast someone like TNW will likely always have a career somewhere because he plays at full tilt.

James McDonnell and Morgan Gannon confirmed as missing the first game. Gannon sent to a specialist but is ok.

James Bentley, David Fusitu'a, Tom Holroyd, Sam Lisone, Mickael Goudemand could come back into contention, Paul Momirovski will be back to play.

Well that settles the Bentley or McDonnell debate.

Would imagine we will go Bentley, Martin with Goudemand on the bench then.

Karl Pryce... jeezey creesey that takes me back.

There nay be a couple of shocks in the opening say squad, couple of players gave more than impressed in the off season and maybe about to be given first dibs.

Bentley injured for this one according to RS.

Really? Peter Smith had Rohan reporting Holroyd, Lisone and Goudemand were all a chance only yesterday. Reckon there will be a few surprises this time next week.

Oh no, where'd you see that? Gannon, McDonnell and Bentley all out?
Martin + an other to start then, wonder if it would be Goudemand if he's fit, or would we risk starting Littlewood on debut?

Quote ="Neruda"Oh no, where'd you see that? Gannon, McDonnell and Bentley all out? Martin + an other to start then, wonder if it would be Goudemand if he's fit, or would we risk starting Littlewood on debut?'" https://www.totalrl.com/four-leeds-rhin ... gh-injury/

Quote ="Neruda"Oh no, where'd you see that? Gannon, McDonnell and Bentley all out? Martin + an other to start then, wonder if it would be Goudemand if he's fit, or would we risk starting Littlewood on debut?'" https://www.totalrl.com/four-leeds-rhin ... gh-injury/

Can't read the full story. Does it reflect the headline? Calumn Walker is often way off in terms of the facts.

It does. Quote below.

"Tom Holroyd, James Bentley, James McDonnell and Morgan Gannon will all miss the clash next Friday night, with Gannon being given extra time following another concussion suffered in the pre-season friendly against Hull KR.

Smith, however, does not see any long-term issue with Gannon.

“There’s a few that might miss Round One or Two. Tom Holroyd, James Bentley, James McDonnell and Morgan Gannon will miss Round One but that’s the way rugby league is. There is nothing too serious,” Smith told League Express."

Ta. Oh well, I suppose at least it puts Goudemand and Lisone in the frame.

Quote ="ArthurClues"Ta. Oh well, I suppose at least it puts Goudemand and Lisone in the frame.'" Nah it’s usual CW clickbait Only Mcdonnel and Gannon have definitely been ruled out https://twitter.com/yepsportsdesk/statu ... 79851?s=46

Quote ="ArthurClues"Ta. Oh well, I suppose at least it puts Goudemand and Lisone in the frame.'" Nah it’s usual CW clickbait Only Mcdonnel and Gannon have definitely been ruled out https://twitter.com/yepsportsdesk/statu ... 79851?s=46

Quote ="christopher"Nah it’s usual CW clickbait Only Mcdonnel and Gannon have definitely been ruled out https://twitter.com/yepsportsdesk/statu ... 79851?s=46'" If that's the case it's another level from mere clickbait, isn't it. It's a directly attributed quote, not just putting out a story based on speculation.

Quote ="christopher"Nah it’s usual CW clickbait Only Mcdonnel and Gannon have definitely been ruled out https://twitter.com/yepsportsdesk/statu ... 79851?s=46'" If that's the case it's another level from mere clickbait, isn't it. It's a directly attributed quote, not just putting out a story based on speculation.

Is Momirovski back yet? Couldn't see him on the training content they posted yesterday.