Regardless of what the points difference is, the table show that we are in joint 10th.....

Which IMO is about right.
Regardless of how poor Hudds and Hull have been.
I think there is probably only Cas and Wakey worse than us.
And they've both beaten us.

We need to forget about the remaining games and 100% focus on recruitment for 2024.

And in a competition that really isn't that great.

After so many games the table doesnt lie. the only teams below us are absolute cack. and both have beaten us

Well to be pedantic, it’s precisely because of our points difference we sr 8th, you don’t get ‘joint’ anything on a League table.

I do agree we are where we deserve to be though.

Exactly, sugar coat it as much as you like, the reality is it’s been an absolute show of a season and everybody involved should be ashamed of their role in it

When you see some of the player interviews over the last few week its no wonder, the way they talk is as if it’s acceptable to just put it together in spurts when they really need to, I know its sound bites but it comes across poorly, they should be embarrassed sneaking into the playoffs in the last couple of weeks but they come across as thinking it’s totally fine and something to laud ‘we always do it tough’ ‘we’r capable of something special’….how about just playing solid rugby throughout the season and challenging at the top end consistently for a change?

It would have been nice to start the season well. I'm a fan of Smith, but I agree he totally misunderstood the value of the pre-season friendlies, and as a result we looked badly undercooked in game 1.

We should not have left a large empty slot in our squad after Leeming left. He didn't need to be replaced like-for-like, but we should have been alert to picking up quality players mid-season.

I hope I'm wrong on this, but there is a sense that Leeds tend to leave their recruitment too late in the season. If we don't have an adequate half-back pairing next season someone needs to take a fall for that given the club evidently didn't see Sezer and Austin as a combination beyond the end of next season.

Listening to the interviews with Smith at the start of his time at the club, I'd be hugely surprised if he doesn't treat this year as a huge learning curve - I doubt that it will be 'more of the same' but this comes with a massive caveat that there is a big task ahead with recruitment.

Fully expected that reply from you Chris....

Lost players and not replaced them, no plan B, no leadership ,no game control, no aggression,no brains, no strike power lr X factor, no hard hitting defence, playing too msny games at barebones

It’s a valid point though, if a club finishes 6th on PD but with the same league points as 7,8 & 9, they aren’t joint 9th they are in the playoffs in 6th, that’s how leagues work.

It blows my mind someone can misunderstand the value of pre-season friendlies. Maybe he knew the value, and we were just crap.

Leeds should be starting pre-season early next season. Players for next season should be told in no uncertain terms to be prepared to be pushed to the limit, that the sim will be top 4, but more important a drop in week to week standards will not be tolerated. That means knock Ons, penalties, missed tackles. It won’t be tolerated.

Standards. They need to be brought back. We’ve lost them.