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| anyone have the link to what he has said please?
I havent seen it & cant seem to find anything
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Never mind, found it
I wouldnt read too much into it, if it is a snipe at encumbent coaching team then it is too subtle for anyone there to be bothered by it. IMO anyway
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| Quote ="Seth"Errm, but Smith gave him the 9 shirt and picked him to start in the first 2 games stating reward for his training in preseason? He simply didn't keep the shirt because he wasn't good enough.'"
He didn't keep the shirt because he didn't fit into Smith's style of play - that was obvious from the end of the previous season. Him not being named as captain suggested he wasn't a long term fixture in Smith's plans.
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| talking of captains, I'm not keen on this changing captain role. pick one and stick with them, maybe now Leeming has left he will. Fingers crossed
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| Quote ="LeedsLurch"talking of captains, I'm not keen on this changing captain role. pick one and stick with them, maybe now Leeming has left he will. Fingers crossed'"
That's not what's happening though, yes someone different might do the coin toss but there's not a different captain each week.
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"He didn't keep the shirt because he didn't fit into Smith's style of play - that was obvious from the end of the previous season. Him not being named as captain suggested he wasn't a long term fixture in Smith's plans.'"
Nothing to do with O'connor being the better and more consistent of the two then?
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| Quote ="Seth"That's not what's happening though, yes someone different might do the coin toss but there's not a different captain each week.'"
I totally missed that who is the captain?
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| Quote ="Seth"Nothing to do with O'connor being the better and more consistent of the two then?'"
I think O'connor is doing a great job but I think Leeming got the botty on when smith said James Bentley will be playing minutes at 9 as he played there a bit as a junior.
That's when he knew he was done.
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"I totally missed that who is the captain?'"
No single player is the captain.
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"I think O'connor is doing a great job but I think Leeming got the botty on when smith said James Bentley will be playing minutes at 9 as he played there a bit as a junior.
That's when he knew he was done.'"
Think that came after Leeming announced he'd asked to be released, in response to whether they would recruit at 9. Bentley also did a short spell there owing to Leemings injury picked up at saints.
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"Ok school boy pantomime villain, or as someone else said "tit" Justin Holbrook will have to take the daggers out of him when he lands, fwiw he's actually a really pleasant lad.'"
Who’s saying he isn’t a lovely lad? I’m telling you why Smith decided he wasn’t good enough to be first choice 9 moving forwards. You either work 200 per cent harder to impress, rectify the deficiency, or move on. I still respect him as a person and player, but not a good fit for our team and coach.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Who’s saying he isn’t a lovely lad? I’m telling you why Smith decided he wasn’t good enough to be first choice 9 moving forwards. You either work 200 per cent harder to impress, rectify the deficiency, or move on. I still respect him as a person and player, but not a good fit for our team and coach.'"
Who said lovely? He has moved on, you'd think there will be some more moving on sooner rather than later now that the standard has been set.
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| Quote ="Seth"Think that came after Leeming announced he'd asked to be released, in response to whether they would recruit at 9. Bentley also did a short spell there owing to Leemings injury picked up at saints.'"
I actually think Bentley would do a job we need more aggression up front Holroyd apart the rest are quite tame.
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"I actually think Bentley would do a job we need more aggression up front Holroyd apart the rest are quite tame.'"
Try getting tackled by Tet!
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| Quote ="Shabino"Who’s saying he isn’t a lovely lad? I’m telling you why Smith decided he wasn’t good enough to be first choice 9 moving forwards. You either work 200 per cent harder to impress, rectify the deficiency, or move on. I still respect him as a person and player, but not a good fit for our team and coach.'"
If you have played a certain way your whole career you just can't change like that - your natural instincts can be changed - Dwyer could not play like Roby and visa versa. If you think he should just accept to play in the reserves and be defending fodder in training you are deluded. He did the right thing - request a move - draw a line under it and move on. Some grown ups in the room at last
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| Quote ="Shabino"Try getting tackled by Tet!'"
Yes he was an animal when at the Roosters I actually think the harsh penalties last year diluted his natural game and he became disillusioned now the ref are a bit more relaxed around contact he's coming good again but still a shadow of the Roosters version of him.
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| Best of luck to Kruise. As with all Brits in the NRL I hope he goes well. He can't do much worse than Hodgson this year, who looks a shadow of his former self.
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| So it turns out that he is free to negotiate contracts for 2024 and could be back in SL without Leeds getting any financial recompense even though he was originaly contracted till the end of '24
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| Quote ="LeedsLurch"So it turns out that he is free to negotiate contracts for 2024 and could be back in SL without Leeds getting any financial recompense even though he was originaly contracted till the end of '24'"
The Sleeve will not have let him go without some kind of Gentlemen's agreement with GC/Holbrook.
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| It's got nothing to do with Gold Coast, he only has a contract till the end of this year
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| Quote ="LeedsLurch"So it turns out that he is free to negotiate contracts for 2024 and could be back in SL without Leeds getting any financial recompense even though he was originaly contracted till the end of '24'"
Isnt that obvious? He's no longer a leeds player, has signed for GC for a year and then will be a free agent.
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| Quote ="krisleeds"The Sleeve will not have let him go without some kind of Gentlemen's agreement with GC/Holbrook.'"
Ooh I can't wait for a groundbreaking partnership to be announced. Can't be many teams left that we've not got one of those with.
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| Quote ="Seth"Ooh I can't wait for a groundbreaking partnership to be announced. Can't be many teams left that we've not got one of those with.'"
Was the Craig Innes signing by Manly the first of these ground breaking partnerships Seth?
We also had the Greg Eastwood saga when he couldn't initially come over to fulfil his contract for some minor conviction (Was it a driving offense?) and had a season at the Bulldogs,before joining us and then signed for the Bulldogs due to home sickness (after being bottled in the head whilst out in Halifax)
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"Was the Craig Innes signing by Manly the first of these ground breaking partnerships Seth?
We also had the Greg Eastwood saga when he couldn't initially come over to fulfil his contract for some minor conviction (Was it a driving offense?) and had a season at the Bulldogs,before joining us and then signed for the Bulldogs due to home sickness (after being bottled in the head whilst out in Halifax)
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Didn’t know that happened. How did you find out?
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| Eastwood was superb when he managed to play for us. He could have become a Leeds legend if he'd have fulfilled his contract.
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| thought the Eastwood thing was well known.
that and his eating macdonalds every day
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