Big respect to anyone who does go. 5hr round trip for Saints love in and they’ll probably put 50 on us…….

Ash is fast, not sure why leeds fans try to talk down their players constantly.

He made a right porridge of that chance, he should have taken him on but he wont be the first or last winger to do it, even those listed above.

Not trying to talk him down. He is fast and he's a very solid winger. My point was around our general lack of pace. Three clean breaks on Friday but our support players struggle to get in the frame in order to convert into tries. If you hark back to the glory days and put Burrow, McGuire and Webb on the pitch on Friday, we finish those chances. Probably only something that can be fixed by recruitment.

I don`t think Handley gets past the full back as he looks to have it covered.
If he passes to Austin he too is already closed down.
The two biggest errors ironically coming from our best 2 players on the night was Smith not finding one of what 3 Leeds players supporting the break and Macdonald trying to pass when the Hull players were all over him which eventually resulted in the winning try.

Yeah Smith messed that up imo he should have taken the tackle id have hull odds on to make a professional foul holding him down.

He was probably our MOM though and he played most of the game second row. I can see Smith starting him there on Friday if Bentley isn’t fit

We’ll take 500 tops, we never seem to travel to Saints im great numbers - im 50/50 whether to go

Welsby should be out against us, but he won’t

You’ll go. You fly the beacon for us all! We’ll be with you in spirit ….

I didn’t think it was that bad, but if we’re still on the clamp down it should be a couple of games. As you say, it won’t be.

Both feet off the ground clear red card

No prob with no red providing that bar is set consistently.

The problem is it didn’t get a card at all so as you say, bar is set

I’ve just been speaking with a Saints fan who thinks because the penalty try was given instead of a card that Welsby won’t get called up. Reckons he can’t be banned! Some mob then lot

He won’t get called up because there were 5 worse high tackles in that game alone. First contact was on the shoulder, and moves up as Broadbent was falling. It was marginally high and worth a penalty but nothing more. The penalty try was insane given the cover coming over.

Are we really at the point of demanding any penalty Saints concede should be a grade C offence?

He could be called up before the beak. I've no problem if he isn't, as long as that benchmark is applied throughout the season. However, experience would suggest that it won't be. That's where I have a real problem with the MRP.

Consistency is the key. I really don’t think it was more than a penalty…but I also think positions and reputations play into it a bit, if it’s a back row coming across in cover like that and coming up with that tackle I think they get a card and a minimum of 1 game. Likewise if it’s someone like Bentley or Edwards or even Bell or Matautia (Sione or Peter).

I’m not saying anyone is cheating or whatever but I do think there’s some unconscious bias.

Like others have said mate, consistency is what we all want.

I’ve no problem if he’s not banned, but we all know it won’t be the same every week. I am however struggling to remember 5 worse tackles than that one.

He wasn’t falling and wellsby had both feet off the ground and hit him directly on the head.

By last year's standards its 2-3 games. Do we go from that to 0 or meet in the middle at 1. It should have been a yellow though.

it's Saints, so probably a 1 match ban for Rhyse Martin

Wouldn't have a problem with him not getting any ban. Didn't think it was more than a penalty tbh. Would have been interesting if it had gone to the vid ref as cover coming across.
Like the fact the refs are making quicker decisions though.

Can't see anything other than an easy saints win but miracles happen

I have no idea what game you were watching but you’re wrong on both counts. Of course Broadbent was stepping and made himself small to go on the inside, Welsby overshot - first contact was actually on the ball after rewatching and went up over his shoulder and onto the head. Both feet were on the ground on initial contact and was lifted on contact as both players spun each other.

I’m fine and agree with other on here saying the key is consistency and wouldn’t think it’s a ban or a penalty try if it were the other way around either. In fact you take that tackle out of the situation and it’s wholly unremarkable. There’s a tackle a couple of sets later where Lees takes a forearm to the face (and gets a penalty) which as a careless/reckless shot perspective was far worse, but definitely nothing more than an in game penalty either.

I was watching the same game as you but without the red vee tinted spectacles.

It was a reckless high tackle and should have been at least a yellow.

Only serious foul play should be banned. Are we that desperate to hope an opposition player gets a ban to give us a chance?!
Not for me….

Im not bothered as long as its consistent, i think a yellow or red and no ban is the fairest way to go, why should we get the advantage that Cas should have had.