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| you could have offered him 30 years as long as the contract has behaviour clauses in it, as most have.
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| The sequence of events re Hardaker in Leeds Live is interesting. To sum up, Leeds only ever offered him a one-year deal and Leigh offered a 2-year deal that was 25% higher than Leeds' final offer. Hardaker sounds a bit upset about the way Leeds went about things, but that seems to be mainly because they simply didn't offer him as much as he wanted.
In another article they mention MacDonald. They suggest that if Leeds don't sign MacDonald, Martin might move Martin to centre. Lets hope that's definitely only in emergencies....
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| Quote ="Once were Loiners"The sequence of events re Hardaker in Leeds Live is interesting. To sum up, Leeds only ever offered him a one-year deal and Leigh offered a 2-year deal that was 25% higher than Leeds' final offer. Hardaker sounds a bit upset about the way Leeds went about things, but that seems to be mainly because they simply didn't offer him as much as he wanted.
In another article they mention MacDonald. They suggest that if Leeds don't sign MacDonald, Martin might move Martin to centre. Lets hope that's definitely only in emergencies....'"
Reading that article makes me think we are finally starting to offer sensible contracts.
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| I think the 2-year issue is probably less about Hardaker specifically and more about maximising flexibility for 2024. Although we have signed others (including Olpherts) on 2-year deals, none of them would be on anything like Hardaker's wages.
This year's signings seem to be mainly about depth with none of them certain stars. For 2024 we'll have Tetevano and Prior leaving and likely one of the halfbacks as well. Given our cap situation some of these guys must be on a huge wedge. 2024 looks like the time we'll go big again, hopefully without a messed up cap blocking signings.
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| Quote ="Once were Loiners"I think the 2-year issue is probably less about Hardaker specifically and more about maximising flexibility for 2024. Although we have signed others (including Olpherts) on 2-year deals, none of them would be on anything like Hardaker's wages.
This year's signings seem to be mainly about depth with none of them certain stars. For 2024 we'll have Tetevano and Prior leaving and likely one of the halfbacks as well. Given our cap situation some of these guys must be on a huge wedge. 2024 looks like the time we'll go big again, hopefully without a messed up cap blocking signings.'"
Yes I agree with that, Smith needed flexibility end of next season.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Hey ghosty, you seem to be showing too much jealousy towards Leigh atm. Sit back and relax.
Leigh will be strong next year whether you like it or not.And BTW - I will never change my signature below or my Avatar for this stupid Leopards crap.
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Jealous of Leigh?
Good one, your clubs owners current rebrand is making you the laughing stock of RL, not much to be jealous of, id be embarrassed if i were you.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Hey ghosty, you seem to be showing too much jealousy towards Leigh atm. Sit back and relax.
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Most of the time it's easy to ignore Leigh and their cringeworthy owner. But every time they make fools of themselves I do think of 1971 and the biggest bit of Rugby League cheating in history and think they had it coming.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Jealous?
Most of the time it's easy to ignore Leigh and their cringeworthy owner. But every time they make fools of themselves I do think of 1971 and the biggest bit of Rugby League cheating in history and think they had it coming.'"
Kit and rebrand aside, Leigh are not going to be making up the numbers next year. Maybe their best side since the days of Drummond, Donlan and Woods.
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| Hardaker showing his class bad mouthing the club in the press. Once a always a .
Club gave him a lifeline last season and yes the new deal they offered was not what he wanted, but just say I declined the offer for a better one.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Hardaker showing his class bad mouthing the club in the press. Once a dude always a dude.
Club gave him a lifeline last season and yes the new deal they offered was not what he wanted, but just say I declined the offer for a better one.'"
Yeah, i'm disappointed in his comments to the press. I think he's gutted as he loved being at Leeds but it's not very professional the tone of his comments.
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| I saw it differently but there you go. opinions and all that
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Jealous?
Most of the time it's easy to ignore Leigh and their cringeworthy owner. But every time they make fools of themselves I do think of 1971 and the biggest bit of Rugby League cheating in history and think they had it coming.'"
Sour grapes then. Give up owd lad.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Sour grapes then. Give up owd lad.
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If you could lay out which parts of the Leigh Leopards we are supposed to be jealous of that would be good?
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| Whilst Hardaker was good for us in the second half of the season, I am glad to see him gone ( yet again ! ) I would be surprised to see him last a full season with the Leigh pussycats. I do fear for him after his rugby career is over
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| Can't be helped.
As said elsewhere next season is the huge one for signings
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| Quote ="Cokey"Sour grapes then. Give up owd lad.
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You need to update your signature
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Yeah, i'm disappointed in his comments to the press. I think he's gutted as he loved being at Leeds but it's not very professional the tone of his comments.'"
Aye if he doesn't understand why a club would only offer him a year and ask him to prove himself then he really hasn't learned anything from the last few years I guess. Saw he had a 2 year deal. Interested to see his behaviour if they go back down. Not sure if he has some kind of relegation get out clause. Not our player now anyway. Onwards…
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| Personally I think we should be offering players like Hardaker a 2 year contract.
He is/was one of our better players last season and good players don`t come along too easily.
As long as we put stipulations in there re his behaviour etc 2 years is a no brainer especially based on some of the signings we have made for next season and the experience Hardaker would bring to the team.
Not sure why he would have to earn a second year when he`s proved his worth last season.
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"You need to update your signature'"
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| Can't remember Zak having a bad game since his return.
That said, I'd rather see players with a bit more attacking pizzazz in the centre or at FB. Maybe Rohan saw it the same. Who knows?
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Can't remember Zak having a bad game since his return.
That said, I'd rather see players with a bit more attacking pizzazz in the centre or at FB. Maybe Rohan saw it the same. Who knows?'"
As much as I agree, I’d prefer him over Rhys Martin and Olipherts in the centres. That’s what we’re going to see for most of next season.
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| Quote ="Les Norton"As much as I agree, I’d prefer him over Rhys Martin and Olipherts in the centres. That’s what we’re doing to see for most of next season.'"
Yep, previous comment was made on the assumption there'll be a centre incoming
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| Quote ="Les Norton"As much as I agree, I’d prefer him over Rhys Martin and Olipherts in the centres. That’s what we’re going to see for most of next season.'"
This is poor planning if so…….
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| It's a hard call.
We have been v critical of cap management in regards to long deals especially on older players. By the sounds of it we couldn't put a fair deal on until Walker moved and even then rumours say 1+1 Yr deal and less than the leigh centipards offered.
Can't blame him,it's likely his last deal.
For me,this highlights the cap issues sport wide and why we need less teams,more money instead of another decade of playing to the bottom rung
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| Quote ="Shabino"This is poor planning if so…….'"
I’m still praying we have a centre lined, otherwise, based on our signings and departures, it’s as if we were relegated and preparing for a season in the Championship.
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