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| wouldn't unduly suprise me to see gale move on come October
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| Quote ="tad rhino"wouldn't unduly suprise me to see gale move on come October'"
Me neither, especially if we sign Austin.
This little episode rightly or wrongly has soured my opinion of him a little, Our success over the last few years has been built around respect and solidarity in the squad yes there has been issues before but I don't think the players that caused the issues have ever lasted very long. The team spirit seems to have come back in spades and I wouldn't want any player ruining that, plus on top of the fact he hasn't really set the world alight especially this season I wouldn't be sorry if he did leave.
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| I think this could be the end for Gale tbh.
On reflection, he has been slightly disappointing since he came back.
We moved heaven and earth to get him and he will be on a good whack - so I think the club have wanted more.
Don't get me wrong, he is exactly what we needed, and we could have been in a terrible mess if we hadn't brought him in.
He's had some decent games, but he's been inconsistent.
And the stupid disciplinary issues and suspensions - when we were decimated in the halves - are unforgivable for a senior player and captain.
With Sezer coming in and the potential to pair with Austin, I could see Gale being surplus to requirements.
How he might go will be interesting.
Does he sit a year in the stands at Leeds and wait to run out his contract?
Who would pay anything for a 33/34 year old?
In terms of O/S spot to create the space for Austin.
Likely to be Martin or Hurrell who makes way.
We are well stocked in the centre and back row.
We need King and Thompson as front row cover.
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| Quote ="christopher"Me neither, especially if we sign Austin.
This little episode rightly or wrongly has soured my opinion of him a little, Our success over the last few years has been built around respect and solidarity in the squad yes there has been issues before but I don't think the players that caused the issues have ever lasted very long. The team spirit seems to have come back in spades and I wouldn't want any player ruining that, plus on top of the fact he hasn't really set the world alight especially this season I wouldn't be sorry if he did leave.'"
good post - but you can imagine Gale's ego wouldn't let him be embarrassed in front of his peer group who he considers to be vastly inferior.
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| Gale can be a contentious figure but he puts his heart and soul into his work. He says he thrives off pressure, well he has some now.
Honestly, I think the initial contract length was ambitious given his age and injury record, but I guess at the time they were keen to attract him in. Same with several other players including Thompson, who is solid enough but I'm still scratching my head over.
Do I think Austin and Sezer make a better half back combination than what we have now? Maybe. If they work together well and are good team mates, I could see it. With the pack we're developing you'd like to think a decent half back combination would have a good time.
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| Quote ="LeedsTiger"Sinfield was fine, Mcguire I agree.'"
Danny Mags was never a moaner at Leeds.
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| Quote ="LeedsTiger"Sinfield was fine, Mcguire I agree.'"
Sinny was so fine.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Gale can be a contentious figure but he puts his heart and soul into his work. He says he thrives off pressure, well he has some now.
Honestly, I think the initial contract length was ambitious given his age and injury record, but I guess at the time they were keen to attract him in. Same with several other players including Thompson, who is solid enough but I'm still scratching my head over.
Do I think Austin and Sezer make a better half back combination than what we have now? Maybe. If they work together well and are good team mates, I could see it. With the pack we're developing you'd like to think a decent half back combination would have a good time.'"
Austin and Sezer is a better halfback combination than Gale and Lui or Gale and Sezer IMHO and also younger!!
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| Quote ="christopher"Austin and Sezer is a better halfback combination than Gale and Lui or Gale and Sezer IMHO and also younger!!'"
Yeah vs Gale and Lui definitely (the current, aged and knee-less version of Lui anyway). Austin and Sezer vs Gale and Sezer - yes probably again.
It's very tough. Would we do better with investing the money in a recognised FB who could cover wing at a push?
Objectively, I can see Austin being good at Leeds. He is a match winner on his day, but why has he fallen so much out of favour at Wire (who aren't all that either)?
I dunno, maybe you do sign Austin on a 2 year deal and let him and Gale battle it out (for me Sezer is the shoe-in of the three, subject to him recovering). We have young Sinfield waiting in the wings, he will be about ready for first grade towards the end of those contracts and we can reassess.
We are in a really interesting phase now; the next couple of decisions on recruitment/retention will make a big difference to our prospects next year. We are at the cusp of being a good side again.
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| Anyway it appears Gale did have a disagreement with Agar in team review he then threw his toys out of the pram and didn't go to training (all from the YEP)
He's apologised, been punished and that's the end of that.
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| Quote ="christopher"Anyway it appears Gale did have a disagreement with Agar in team review he then threw his toys out of the pram and didn't go to training (all from the YEP)
He's apologised, been punished and that's the end of that.'"
Crikey. He now needs to focus on what he does best, winning Rugby matches. This will take a bit of living down, but if he does his talking on the pitch it will soon be forgotten.
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| He says he absolutely did not storm out...then tells us he didn't want to train and...stormed out.
Anyway who cares. It's done with. It's made me dislike him that's for sure. Leaves a sour taste. Im absolutely adamant he won't be here in 2022
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| Quote ="Bang"He says he absolutely did not storm out...then tells us he didn't want to train and...stormed out.
Anyway who cares. It's done with. It's made me dislike him that's for sure. Leaves a sour taste. Im absolutely adamant he won't be here in 2022'"
There is a difference between storming out and just leaving. Seemingly the game review didn't go his way, which is understandable. I think he still will be here in 2022, just not as captain. He had a lapse in judgement. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully it's done now.
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| For me this has shown Gale to be who he always has been., I would keep his contract but refuse to play him and make him watch from the stands for the rest of the contract, liam Sutcliffe can take his place he's just as good and would teach Gale a lesson.
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| He was asked to train with the team and refused and went home.
How is that not storming out?
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| Quote ="Bang"He was asked to train with the team and refused and went home.
How is that not storming out?'"
Well in his own words "he wasn't in the right head space".
Seemingly our interpretation of "Storm out" are different.
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| Quote ="MrPotatoHead"For me this has shown Gale to be who he always has been., I would keep his contract but refuse to play him and make him watch from the stands for the rest of the contract, liam Sutcliffe can take his place he's just as good and would teach Gale a lesson.'" enough sat in the stands in recent seasons without making someone
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| Fair play to Gale for making that statement.
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| Quote ="MrPotatoHead"For me this has shown Gale to be who he always has been., I would keep his contract but refuse to play him and make him watch from the stands for the rest of the contract, liam Sutcliffe can take his place he's just as good and would teach Gale a lesson.'"
For me, this post has told me more about you than it has Luke Gale.
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| Quote ="MrPotatoHead"For me this has shown Gale to be who he always has been., I would keep his contract but refuse to play him and make him watch from the stands for the rest of the contract, liam Sutcliffe can take his place he's just as good and would teach Gale a lesson.'" Fortunately Agar will have more sense.
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| Quote ="MrPotatoHead"For me this has shown Gale to be who he always has been., I would keep his contract but refuse to play him and make him watch from the stands for the rest of the contract, liam Sutcliffe can take his place he's just as good and would teach Gale a lesson.'"
That's a great use of cap money? Surely Leeds would simply trade him and everyone moves on. Nobody is bigger than the club and the club have flexed their muscles and Gale is the loser - thankfully.
He has done himself no favours - especially with his team mates
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"That's a great use of cap money? Surely Leeds would simply trade him and everyone moves on. Nobody is bigger than the club and the club have flexed their muscles and Gale is the loser - thankfully.
He has done himself no favours - especially with his team mates'"
Over reactions or what, last few years Sutcliffe, average and wanted moving on, now he’s John Holmes incarnate again.
Doubt Gale will go anywhere, remember Ellery getting stripped of Wigan Captaincy still played at Wigan for few more years.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Over reactions or what, last few years Sutcliffe, average and wanted moving on, now he’s John Holmes incarnate again.
Doubt Gale will go anywhere, remember Ellery getting stripped of Wigan Captaincy still played at Wigan for few more years.'"
More importantly, Schoey after the infamous removal of the captaincy at Leeds by Dougie, stuck around until early '96. Although he was arguably never quite the same afterwards.
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| Time to move on. Gale will be judged by his performances. If he impresses and performs at last seasons level he may get a two year offer elsewhere and walk at the end of the season. Otherwise at the age of 34 highly unlikely he will get a contract offer to match his Leeds salary so will stay put. Hopefully he comes back in and plays a blinder. Could be a blessing in disguise as Prior is clearly the outstanding captaincy candidate from a role model perspective
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